i'm not a veteran like some of these other guys, in fact I'm on my first cycle right now and its identical to this one. I can just give you my account so far and that cycle is giving my amazing results. I agree with everyone, running the two means you won't know where the sides are coming from but I've been lucky enough to have negligible sides, or at least manageable. The adex is keeping the water and gyno down imo and I'm getting good solid gains. good luck