New cycle, Masteron & Var research log (a quest)

[oldmusclemike]

Just an FYI Mr. David

My favorite routine I used to train was 3 on one off 3 on. Ha Leg days had to by itself. I remember when I would come out after legs and had trouble pushing the clutch down to shift. :laugh2:

Anyway I didn't just stick to the push pull. After a few months or so I would always change up to push, push.

Peace
OMM

 

[MrDavid9000]

Here is a very interesting video on body fat percentage.
Apparently what everyone is saying here about ***8220;skinny-fat***8221; this fitness model is ***8220;skinny-fat***8221; as well.
[u*****not allowed****
He has 17.5% body fat (Dex scan) 6 feet. 90kg.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Bro... 10 years training, 14-17% bodyfat, 176 pounds at a 6.1.... All of this AFTER 7 cycles in 2 years lol....
I'm around his size at 5.8 lol...

He has absolute no fucking idea what he's doing and he's so certain he does it will be pointless to engage in further discussion.
Its even impossible to fit in on/off/pct time in his 2 years and 7 cycles....
He'll die early but he's an adult so let him ?

Slow your roll. You don't know what the situation is . He may have been sick our dropped weight to compete in an iron man or something else. Not everyone cycles to bulk. Everyone has different goals. Not everyone is on the quest for size. Some want strength and endurance.

Grow up you acting like a child. try thinking before our type. What if he was in a car accident and in the hospital for months. That's happened here a few times. How about not being a dick and asking a question. More people would want to engage with you in a conversation if you weren't the jump to conclusion and pass judgment guy.

Maybe reread what you wrote and think about it a little.

 

[casanovaaa]

Not condoning no test. But I know a dude who ran masteron only for a few months and it completely dissipated his gyno to nothing. I'm still keeping that in my back of tricks whether it is kosher or not.

something good to know about thanks for sharing.

 

[MrDavid9000]

Thanks for some support... I do find it interesting how every negative comment that offered no help or insight took nothing into effects of why people might be 175 pounds after 10 years of natural training.
Yes I was chronically ill for 4 months and wasn’t able to work for 3 of those, and yes I did loose a considerable amount of wait then... but above I did state my challenges over the last three years.... I just assumed most people would understand that we all have a past and there are reasons for why we are what we are ( besides being careless and stupid and “not knowing what we are doing”).
However this is my first cycle with Masteron, it really changed the way my body reacts to anabolics, a huge notice difference in estrogen sides, I’m down to 20mg of Nolvadex, 25mg of aromisin e3d, still no high estrogen sides..... this week in introduced t-350 (1/2 ml), so far so good, but like I stated before we shall see as we go.
Updates of changes coming soon.

Slow your roll. You don't know what the situation is . He may have been sick our dropped weight to compete in an iron man or something else. Not everyone cycles to bulk. Everyone has different goals. Not everyone is on the quest for size. Some want strength and endurance.

Grow up you acting like a child. try thinking before our type. What if he was in a car accident and in the hospital for months. That's happened here a few times. How about not being a dick and asking a question. More people would want to engage with you in a conversation if you weren't the jump to conclusion and pass judgment guy.

Maybe reread what you wrote and think about it a little.

 

[casanovaaa]

Thanks for some support... I do find it interesting how every negative comment that offered no help or insight took nothing into effects of why people might be 175 pounds after 10 years of natural training.
Yes I was chronically ill for 4 months and wasn***8217;t able to work for 3 of those, and yes I did loose a considerable amount of wait then... but above I did state my challenges over the last three years.... I just assumed most people would understand that we all have a past and there are reasons for why we are what we are ( besides being careless and stupid and ***8220;not knowing what we are doing***8221.
However this is my first cycle with Masteron, it really changed the way my body reacts to anabolics, a huge notice difference in estrogen sides, I***8217;m down to 20mg of Nolvadex, 25mg of aromisin e3d, still no high estrogen sides..... this week in introduced t-350 (1/2 ml), so far so good, but like I stated before we shall see as we go.
Updates of changes coming soon.

Thanks for the skinny on your illness when you where younger. what was it if I may ask brother?

 

[MrDavid9000]

Kidney stones, put me in bed and could barely walk... in CANADA it’s all socialists medicine and it takes a while to get any treatment. They know kidney stones aren’t life threatening so they will put you on a list and give you some pain killers and tell you “your on a list, it’s 4 months away”.... after a little more then 2 months of I went to a Chinese naturalpath. They put me on a regiment of different vinegars and oils, also included a herb called “chanca piedra”, with in 5 days I was at least mobile again, I stayed on the natural treatment and was almost 100% in 30 days,
But like any illness that knocks you in bed for months it takes a long time to regai your strength and I lost about 35 pounds in two months, I could barely eat, and taking a shower every day was like climbing a mountain. (This was 6 years ago).
10 years ago I ended up with a virus that attacked my spleen, this almost did me in, I couldn’t eat, the doctors didn’t know what to do, they tried a bunch of meds and nothing seemed to work, with my body fighting it my spleen inflamed to the point it touched my stomach and anything I ate I would vomit up.
My diet consisted of sliced pears, grapes and crackers for 5 months. I was 6’1 and 128 pounds when it was over and I regained my appetite, then the long road to recovery and training.
Besides these few illnesses I never get sick, no flu’s or colds and maybe a sinus infection every other year that lasts 3 days, but for the most part I’m the healthiest person that I know, I don’t ever take time off of work (with the exception of above).
I hope this sheds some light on why people are where they are in life and why they might come to forums for a little more information and possibly better their lives.

Cheers,

Thanks for the skinny on your illness when you where younger. what was it if I may ask brother?

 

[scorob777]

This is an interesting thread, a unique approach and challenging history

Cycle:
Masteron prop 100mg weekly (2 pins)
Masteron E 200mg weekly (2 pins)
Anavar 20mg ed (morning)
Proviron 75mg pre work out (ever workout except leg day)
Tbol 30mg pre work out (only leg day)

I'm curious why you would have four separate compounds plus letro for a total of five, but chose to not include testosterone?

Also, as mentioned none of those aromatize plus I'd expect getting shut down on test production plus added letro would lead you to being very very low in estrogen. Do you have any of those sides like achy joints or libido issues?

 

[MrDavid9000]

I would like to do an update and change in regiment:
Currently I have Incorperated 1/2ml of test 350 per week,
Masteron is 100mg prop, 200mg enth split into two times a week.
I am cycling the oral compounds as pre work outs, I did some research on this last year and they claim that if you cycle the compounds like this your receptors never get desensitized (but who really knows).
I dropped my Ai’s to 20mg Nolvadex and 25mg Aromisin e3d.
So far the Masteron seems to really be controlling my estrogen sides, by now with this many orals I would be having estrogen sides like a nut bag, even though people may thing none of these compounds aromotise into estrogen, they would be correct, however it cause your natural test to be shoved off the receptor and this causing more natural free test, this test then can aromatize into estrogen... this is why guys can take Anavar and get estrogen sides, including me.... however the Masteron seems to keeping everything working great... we will see how the results are in a month and a month after that.
This is a 10 week cycle I will do and then on my 8th week I will Incorperated a pct.

As asked
achy joints: none.
Libido issues: sex drive it abnormally high.

Best regards,

This is an interesting thread, a unique approach and challenging history

Cycle:
Masteron prop 100mg weekly (2 pins)
Masteron E 200mg weekly (2 pins)
Anavar 20mg ed (morning)
Proviron 75mg pre work out (ever workout except leg day)
Tbol 30mg pre work out (only leg day)

I'm curious why you would have four separate compounds plus letro for a total of five, but chose to not include testosterone?

Also, as mentioned none of those aromatize plus I'd expect getting shut down on test production plus added letro would lead you to being very very low in estrogen. Do you have any of those sides like achy joints or libido issues?

 

[scorob777]

Mr David, sounds good. The only thing I'd change is aromasin on E3D is no good. It has a short half life so every day dosing is better. Cut that 25mg pill or cap into quarters and take 1/4 per day.

 

[MrDavid9000]

So what your saying is to take the Ai’s, put them in a pill splitter and quarter it and take that every day vs e3d.... I’ll give it ago... that’s a good tip & makes good sense.
Maybe one day I’ll figure out how to take a normal dose of dbol with no estrogen sides, I think stacking Masteron with testosterone is key.
Like I have read on many forum threads, it can take years to find a balanced stack cycle that works in harmony with your body...
This is the reason why I named this thread “a quest”, because we are all on a quest to find the prefect blend and dose.

Cheers,

Mr David, sounds good. The only thing I'd change is aromasin on E3D is no good. It has a short half life so every day dosing is better. Cut that 25mg pill or cap into quarters and take 1/4 per day.

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

So what your saying is to take the Ai***8217;s, put them in a pill splitter and quarter it and take that every day vs e3d.... I***8217;ll give it ago... that***8217;s a good tip & makes good sense.
Maybe one day I***8217;ll figure out how to take a normal dose of dbol with no estrogen sides, I think stacking Masteron with testosterone is key.
Like I have read on many forum threads, it can take years to find a balanced stack cycle that works in harmony with your body...
This is the reason why I named this thread ***8220;a quest***8221;, because we are all on a quest to find the prefect blend and dose.

Cheers,

There are so many idiosyncrisies involved when trying to dial into your ai, just good to have as much data as possible. Have you split up your dosages to every day now?

 

[MrDavid9000]

Tonight I will start with the quartering of the Nolvadex and aromisin.... we shall see if any difference, but I will try almost anything (with in reason, kind of...lol)
When I read the last post about quartering the dose I just took the large dose, so I think two days have past, it’s time to start on this regiment.
Next week I’ll keep updating.

There are so many idiosyncrisies involved when trying to dial into your ai, just good to have as much data as possible. Have you split up your dosages to every day now?

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

Tonight I will start with the quartering of the Nolvadex and aromisin.... we shall see if any difference, but I will try almost anything (with in reason, kind of...lol)
When I read the last post about quartering the dose I just took the large dose, so I think two days have past, it***8217;s time to start on this regiment.
Next week I***8217;ll keep updating.

Soundns good man, looking forward to seeing how it helps.

 

[MrDavid9000]

Update:
Things are rolling along great, zero estrogen sides, I got so brave I even took 40mg dbol as a pre work out (4 days ago) to see if any estrogen sides would start creeping up, zero so far, (normally my nipple would be itchy in the morning).
I keep tweaking here and there, everything rolling along good and I’m up 6 pounds, I don’t feel very watery, shoulders seem to be growing, wife says my arms grew.
Later tonight I’ll post what my regiment has evolved into.
Cheers,

 

[MrDavid9000]

Update:
Thinks are going very well, actually way better then I ever thought.
Currently the last two pins have been:
1/2ml of test 350 (2x w)
1ml of Masteron 200 enth (2xw)
Total 350 mg test
400 mg Masteron
Anavar 20 mg daily

Orals as pre work out:
30mg Superdrol, 40 mg dbol, 100mg proviron. I rotate each oral as pre work out only. (I had a bunch of these from other cycles and orders I stop taking premature because of high estrogen sides), this time it works like magic, everything in line and no sides at all!
Rest blood pressure: 122/78
Rest pulse rate: 56-62 bpm
Ai:
20mg Nolvadex eod
25mg Aromisin eod
Note: I did quarter the pills and took it every day, it seemed to work better a whole pill every other day.
The days I took the dbol I popped 2mg of lectrol in the morning and the dbol pre work out in afternoon. After I took dbol as a Pre workout twice I did notice the scale gaining more, it was only water, when I took the letrozole the morning of my dbol pre work out it seem to point everything normal with no increased water weight.
Over the next two weeks I’ll stick with superdrol as a pre work out only and see how that goes (4-5 work out days a week), because I’m out of proviron now and I’m going to lay off the dbol now.
When I have 5 weeks left I will switch to Anavar and winstrol as my only orals I’ll take.
Any recommendations on the dosages for Anavar winstrol?
Winstrol is the only oral in my list I don’t have experiance with.
So far this is my best cycle with really good strength gains (up 25% with everything) and a real decent recomp, I’m up to 183 pounds from 176, I don’t think much of any is water (maybe 2-3 pounds is) 7-8 weeks to go and we will see, but so far general really happy with the progress this time.
Again my conclusion at the end of this week is the Masteron stacked with the test make everything work nice with no estrogen sides.
Cheers my friends of human evolution.

 

[MrDavid9000]

Update:
Took a week off from orals, still pushing a long with test and Masteron, things rolling well and growing... my order of wynn and Anavar came in, I tried out both in combination 20mg var, 40mg wyn, holy cow!... crazy strength increase, tried it two days in a row as a pre work out, best strength gains I have ever gotten on anything.
Cheers more up dates to come!