New IMT Client

Popx3

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First of all I'd like to say howdy and I'm excited to be an IMT client and part of this forum (been lurking and learning for about 1 month). I finally received my meds today. Here's my basic story:

I'm a 12+ year prostate cancer survivor - diagnosed the day before my 40th birthday. Happy Birthday :Party:.

I have long had libido issues (my Uro believes as a result of external radiation and radiated seeds inserted into my prostate and I imagine as part of getting older as well - I'm 52 now. However, in consultation with my Uro, we chose to not address my libido issue based on the old theory that testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) could fuel PCa cells. Through my own research I learned this theory had been debunked by Morgentaler (Harvard).

Anyway, I started testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with my Uro in May 2011 at 300 mg Test E every 3 weeks. It worked very well initially - I finally had a good libido, lasted longer and recovered quicker. I had morning wood and random wood throughout the day. It was the start of a new life. :) NOTE: I took DIM to counter the T conversion to E. However:

In March 2012, I started noticing a change in demeanor. I really didn't give it much thought for a few months, but then thought it was a B12 issue. I also noticed around summer time that the Test E didn't seem to work anymore - it was like I was injecting water. Eventually I became more emotional, less energetic and enthusiastic about life, not to mention extreme Premature Ejaculation when things did work.

At some point last year, I switched to 200 MG Test E every 2 weeks.

To make a long story short, in December of 2012, I hit bottom - lethargic, sense of worthlessness, depressed about nothing, no longer enjoyed going to work. I then realized that it wasn't that the T was not working anymore, but rather it was the T conversion to E. It was my [lack of] luck that my Uro was on vacation for the holidays, so I suffered through it. I eventually and dramatically increased my DIM while I waited for him to return from vacation - started taking 8 DIM per day vs 2 per day. I also started taking other Anti conversion supplements until I could get with my Uro. This actually worked to improve my emotional issues, but not my libido, and my erection issues worsened from not being able to keep it up to not being able to get it up.

I finally met with my Uro in January 2013 and realized he didn't really have a clue about managing testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) although he IS very supportive. He referred me to an Endo and I finally had hope that I would get the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) that I believed I needed. I met with the Endo in February. However, the Endo didn't even think I should have been on T in the first place and called AI's experimental - he wasn't very supportive overall. It was a dead-end too.

That's when I turned to IMT. My protocol is:

- 200 MG Test Cyp - spilt into 2x per week
- .5 MG Anastrozole 2 x per week (capsules NOT pills)
- HCG @ 500 units 2 x per week SubQ
- DHEA-Pregnenolone @ .25 Grams per day

BTW, I did take labs during January and February on my own and with my insurer - my E and E2 proved to be a bit high. I can post my labs another time, but at this point of being on the IMT protocol, Im not sure the specifics are important. Also, I did get my T, E and E2 tested this morning after I learned I would be starting the IMT protocol soon. Sort of a baseline from my old testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) to my new protocol.

I'm ready to start my protocol tonight, but I'm waiting to hear back from my IMT rep as to WHEN I should take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG in relation to the timing of my Test Cyp shots. NOTE: I've been taking approximately 50 mg Test E 2 x per week under my Uro prescription and also taking the anti-E supplements in the interim while I've been waiting for the IMT approval and meds. It has worked to prevent the emotional issues, but I have little libido between shots and rarely get wood.

I just wanted to introduce myself :sadwavey: and I'm sure I will be looking to many of you for guidance, soooo THANKS in advance ... I hope this was not confusing or hard to read.
 
Welcome brother! I got my meds from IMT last week and pinned for the first time Tuesday morning 150 mg TC. Did 250 units HCG yesterday. I am excited and ready for a new life! Good luck to you!
 
Welcome brother! I got my meds from IMT last week and pinned for the first time Tuesday morning 150 mg TC. Did 250 units HCG yesterday. I am excited and ready for a new life! Good luck to you!

Thanks Dawg.

I know IMT is great at individualing our protocols, but I'm curious, does IMT have you taking an Aromatase Inhibitor (Anastrozole)?

If yes, when did they suggest you take it in relation to the timing of your T shot? My rep left it up to me as to WHEN I take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in relation to my T shot. Just trying to get a feel for what might work best...

I will pin starting on Sunday - I'm anxious and excited and hoping I can pin my wife in the near future - :naughty: HA!.

How are you feeling after 2 days?

Keep me posted on how 'getting dialed in' is working for you.

Thanks for the welcome...
 
Thanks Dawg.

I know IMT is great at individualing our protocols, but I'm curious, does IMT have you taking an Aromatase Inhibitor (Anastrozole)?

If yes, when did they suggest you take it in relation to the timing of your T shot? My rep left it up to me as to WHEN I take the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in relation to my T shot. Just trying to get a feel for what might work best...

I will pin starting on Sunday - I'm anxious and excited and hoping I can pin my wife in the near future - :naughty: HA!.

How are you feeling after 2 days?

Keep me posted on how 'getting dialed in' is working for you.

Thanks for the welcome...

I was prescribed Anastrozole but I am going to wait until 12 week blood work and look at my numbers. That is unless I feel symptoms of Gyno coming on. I'm going to just take it one day at a time and get dialed in. I want to keep it simple first. I feel nothing after two days but wasn't expecting to this soon...
 
I am with IMT as well and just finished my second week...I myself take the Anastrozole M-W-F.. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I do 1 day before my first pin and the other one 2 days before that one..My pins are Monday and Thursday. I myself rather be safe than sorry and decided to run through the whole 11 weeks, I am also doing a higher dose than you right now as well so might be different.......Good luck in your new life!
 
Pop3x! Thanks for posting.. posts like this help us all lean and maybe we can help you also.. good luck with the new protocol.. I think you made a wise decision going with IMT!
 
I was prescribed Anastrozole but I am going to wait until 12 week blood work and look at my numbers. That is unless I feel symptoms of Gyno coming on. I'm going to just take it one day at a time and get dialed in. I want to keep it simple first. I feel nothing after two days but wasn't expecting to this soon...

I know I have issues with E2 and will benefit from an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) based on:

(1) labs - even with Anti-E supplements, my E and E2 have been on the high side:

Jan 2 PCP Labs (4 days after 100 mg Test E pin): E = 202.5 pg/ML (No Range); E2 = 42.4 pg/ML (Range < 52); T = 8.76 ng/ML (no range); Free T % = 2.54% (Range 1.1 to 2.8)​

Jan 15 'Personal Lab' Labs (3 days after 100 mg Test E pin): E = 136 pg/ML (Range 40 - 115); E2 = 46.6 pg/ML (Range 7.7 - 42.6); T = 705 ng/DL (348 - 1197); Free T % = 2.45% (Range 1.4 to 4.2)​

Feb 16 PCP Labs (7 days after 200 mg Test E pin): E = 174.7 pg/ML (No Range); E2 = 44.5 pg/ML (Range < 52); T = 7.9 ng/ML (no range); Free T % = 2.4% (Range 1.1 to 2.8)​

(2) symptoms. For example, when I knew I would receive my meds from IMT Wednesday and thus expected to start the IMT protocol on Wednesday night, I didn't take DIM, etc. that morning. I could tell the difference as the day wore on - nipples hurting and just a bit less enthusiastic. NOTE: Been taking 6 DIM morning and night; 2 Resveratrol morning and night; and 1 Zinc (50 mg) morning and night.

My rep changed the protocol to start - he wants me to do only one Aromatase inhibitor (AI) per week (= 0.5 mgs), so I plan to take it at the same time I pin the Cypionate (Sunday nights) unless someone has another (better?) suggestion.

Thanks for all the support!!!
 
I am with IMT as well and just finished my second week...I myself take the Anastrozole M-W-F.. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I do 1 day before my first pin and the other one 2 days before that one..My pins are Monday and Thursday. I myself rather be safe than sorry and decided to run through the whole 11 weeks, I am also doing a higher dose than you right now as well so might be different.......Good luck in your new life!

Thanks for the support Moe. So I think I'm understanding you to say you take Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3 days and 1 Day prior to first Pin?
 
im very satisfied with IMT so far! good luck to you, you are now in good hands! If you ever have any questions, no matter how trivial, call your rep. he/she will respond to you very quickly and with expert advice
 
Welcome glad to hear IMT is helping you out, I luckily don't have the issues you do but glad you are seeking knowledgeable help from them, Good luck with your endeavor!
 
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