New to TRT but not first rodeo...

[OVERSUPPLIMENTED]

Hi All

I recently was told i need TRT. The Dr prescribed me 200mg every 2 weeks as a starting point. I have read many hours regarding TRT but still a lot of questions. So he wants me to pin 200 mg 3 x and i need to get bloods done at week 7 and office visit @ week 8 to see where i am at. I have a test lvl of 333. I have every symptom of lot T. Fatigue, depression, getting fat... So here is my question. Im worried that after i pin the 200 mg every two weeks that my test lvl will be to high and he may prescribe only 100mg or even take me off. Not positive but just a thought. Should i pin 100mg once every two weeks or should i just follow his protocol. I ran a test e cycle a couple years back that probably fucked me now. I did everything to the book as far as dosing but never had bloods done. When i ran my cycle i felt the best i have ever felt in my life. Now i feel the total opposite and want to get back to that feeling. I know the TRT will do that legally but i want to get the best "bang for the buck" to put it simple. Would you pin only 100mg instead of two so he keeps the dose at 200mg? Please bash the shit out of me if this is stupid thought on my part but i would like others thought before... Thanks

 

[Mprtz]

First off, the dosing every two weeks is problematic. You should inject at least weekly.

Do you have any sense of what your doctor's goals are regarding your levels? Is he going to be ok with 1000+ or is he looking for a "midrange" result?

If I understand correctly, you will be tested one week after your third 200mg shot? I would estimate that you will not be over range on that dose.

 

[OVERSUPPLIMENTED]

First off, the dosing every two weeks is problematic. You should inject at least weekly.

Do you have any sense of what your doctor's goals are regarding your levels? Is he going to be ok with 1000+ or is he looking for a "midrange" result?

If I understand correctly, you will be tested one week after your third 200mg shot? I would estimate that you will not be over range on that dose.

I agree on the dosing very two weeks but how i feel right now, the 200mg every two weeks should make me feel better than i feel now. The dosage i can tweak depending on if feel the roller coaster and i can discuss that with him I'm sure. I think he is looking for the "midrange" results. Thats why i am concerned. Yes the test will be done one week after 3rd shot. Should i just do 3 100mg shots to be "safe" or should i just do what is recommended. If i can get an extra 100mg out of the ordeal, i would do that. I know it will make me feel great again but i want to hear what you all would do.

 

[Mprtz]

Doing 100mg every two weeks and testing one week in might be overkill, you could end up suspiciously low. How much do you weigh?
An alternative would be to dog the final dose only.

Long term, it is going to be a pain if your goals differ from those of your physician. You'll have to modify your protocol every time he wants you tested.

 

[OVERSUPPLIMENTED]

Im 230 right now. So you are saying to do 2 200mg shots the first 4 weeks then skip the 3 ed shot in week 6 and have my bloods done at week 7 and final result would be better than 3 doses at 100mg? I should probably just do the 200mg every two weeks for three doses and see where I'm at. I just don't want him to lower my dosage on me. Once I get normal again on trt I DO want to run another cycle and some how hide it if possible.

Doing 100mg every two weeks and testing one week in might be overkill, you could end up suspiciously low. How much do you weigh?
An alternative would be to dog the final dose only.

Long term, it is going to be a pain if your goals differ from those of your physician. You'll have to modify your protocol every time he wants you tested.

 

[Mprtz]

Im 230 right now. So you are saying to do 2 200mg shots the first 4 weeks then skip the 3 ed shot in week 6 and have my bloods done at week 7 and final result would be better than 3 doses at 100mg? I should probably just do the 200mg every two weeks for three doses and see where I'm at. I just don't want him to lower my dosage on me. Once I get normal again on trt I DO want to run another cycle and some how hide it if possible.

I was suggesting going down to 100mg on the last shot, not skipping it completely.

It's impossible to know exactly where you will fall, but I don't see you raising any eyebrows on 100mg per week, especially at your weight.

Another strategy if you do come in midrange is to say that your symptoms persist and talk your doc into an "upper quartile" approach. That will make life easier in the long term.

 

[Slhardee]

I am still confused about your dosing. If you're taking testosterone cypionate, your level will definitely be on the lower end if you're pinning once every two weeks. Most guys who take cypionate pin every 3.5 days.

If your having a shot of cypionate and getting tested two weeks later you'll be fine in the sense your numbers will be very low or tanked. You won't be fine because you'll probably feel like crap.

 

[Old Duffer]

Let's back up a bit. Every 2 weeks is an awful idea regardless of the ester, but look at these halflife charts. The left is 200mg test cyp every 2weeks. Really rough ride and never builds at all. You WILL be miserable on that roller coaster.

The right chart is 200mg test undeconate every 2weeks. Still a bumpy ride but at least it builds a bit over time. It will take MONTHS (many many) to reach a stable peak.

Lastly, don't mess with your doc. If you don't like the results, get a different doc. If you want to go freestyle like me, just dump the doc and diy.

Sorry for sideways pics. Too lazy to fix em

 

[OVERSUPPLIMENTED]

Why so many peaks and valleys eod? I would think it would slowly ramp up to day 7, then start going back down. I don't understand the charts. Please explain.

Guys you think i will feel worse then i do now when on trt? I feel like shit to be honest.

 

[Old Duffer]

Read up and on halflife of esters.

And yes, those roller coasters will be miserable

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I agree on the dosing very two weeks but how i feel right now, the 200mg every two weeks should make me feel better than i feel now.

No it won't, not only will it make you feel worse but its far worse for you too. Asking for cholesterol, glucose and HCT problems with that dosing.