Newbee discussion on steroids

[bleachcola]

I agree bleach, I am not out to make steroids look like heroin, cause they are no where near. But I am saying they do have their risks.. When md's say you shouldnt use them, i dont think they mean, if you use them you will die, i think they mean, it might influence cancer, heart disease, etccc. later in life.

Safer than Tylenol.

 

[carolinacrackah]

Some of my family is borderline "Intervention" with me over steroids since this Benoit thing.

 

[carolinacrackah]

I think it would make a good episode though.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Without a doubt steroids and especially steroid abuse can and most likely will cause one some serious problems, maybe not today, maybe never, but the risk is still there, and it can be a serious one.

I've long been a proponent of safe, moderate, and educated use.....

On that note, this thread has remained amazinly civil, so civil it's turned into a good thread, and therefore I'm gonna move it to the Anabolic forum.

 

[carolinacrackah]

Without a doubt steroids and especially steroid abuse can and most likely will cause one some serious problems, maybe not today, maybe never, but the risk is still there, and it can be a serious one.

I've long been a proponent of safe, moderate, and educated use.....

On that note, this thread has remained amazinly civil, so civil it's turned into a good thread, and therefore I'm gonna move it to the Anabolic forum.

nooooo....i was just about to post gay porn.

 

[Tsaunders]

Some of my family is borderline "Intervention" with me over steroids since this Benoit thing.

haha cc, now you mix painkillers and anti depressantsand other drugslike Benoit did, with or without steroids your going to have mental issues.

 

[Tsaunders]

Steroid ABUSE i agree is a huge reason why steroids get the blame they do

 

[rubberduckyo]

Safer than Tylenol.

Damnit! Beat me to it!

Any pharmaceutical has risks if taken improperly and without knowledge

The same holds true for steroids IMO

 

[carolinacrackah]

haha cc, now you mix painkillers and anti depressantsand other drugslike Benoit did, with or without steroids your going to have mental issues.

Unfortunately most people dont know that. Some of my family know about my use and attribute every problem physical or otherwise to being a side effect of "The Steroids".
Cant sleep....its the steroids.
Cant concentrate....its the steroids
Forgot to return the movies to blockbuster on time.....steroids make you forgetfull. etc. etc.

 

[Tsaunders]

Yea but steroids are illegal


on the opposite side, you could say that take a bottle of tylenol, your dead...

Take the same ammount of it, but d bol, you wont be dead.. So?

 

[Tsaunders]

Unfortunately most people dont know that. Some of my family know about my use and attribute every problem physical or otherwise to being a side effect of "The Steroids".
Cant sleep....its the steroids.
Cant concentrate....its the steroids
Forgot to return the movies to blockbuster on time.....steroids make you forgetfull. etc. etc.

lol at the last point

 

[Thoms]

I would have to agree with SC and Bleach in that the knowledge of the average endocrinologist is often flawed for 3 reasons.

1, they have little knowledge about supralogical dosages of test. It's outside their textbook knowledge of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).
2, they have no schooling whatsoever on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) like oral-t, boldenone, tren,...
3, Whenever a BB comes to them for help, it's because something went wrong. This 1% of screw-ups is all they see of bodybuilding, and it enforces, incorrectly, their belief that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) can't be used properly in high dosages. And I can't really blame them for thinking that.

Furthermore, all knowledge, if any, they have on standard BB practices like PCT,...is gained practically, just like with us.
I went to see an endocrinologist once when I was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). Basically I wanted him to prescribe me some nolva. He replied that I must be wrong, since that was an anti-cancer drug, meant for women with breast cancer. I then asked him what he thought I should take in order to prevent gyno. He had no answer. Neither did he have an idea how nolva would affect me, or if it would restore LH. Being a biochemist, I continued to explain the mechanism of action, and my need for it. It was clear he was out of his league, he became frustrated by it, and just ended the conversation with, 'Here, take your poison!' and prescribed it to me.

I don't have a doubt in my mind this particular board can give more appropriate info on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) than the average endocrinologist.

 

[atomknight]

I would have to agree with SC and Bleach in that the knowledge of the average endocrinologist is often flawed for 3 reasons.

1, they have little knowledge about supralogical dosages of test. It's outside their textbook knowledge of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).
2, they have no schooling whatsoever on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) like oral-t, boldenone, tren,...
3, Whenever a BB comes to them for help, it's because something went wrong. This 1% of screw-ups is all they see of bodybuilding, and it enforces, incorrectly, their belief that Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) can't be used properly in high dosages. And I can't really blame them for thinking that.

Furthermore, all knowledge, if any, they have on standard BB practices like PCT,...is gained practically, just like with us.
I went to see an endocrinologist once when I was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). Basically I wanted him to prescribe me some nolva. He replied that I must be wrong, since that was an anti-cancer drug, meant for women with breast cancer. I then asked him what he thought I should take in order to prevent gyno. He had no answer. Neither did he have an idea how nolva would affect me, or if it would restore LH. Being a biochemist, I continued to explain the mechanism of action, and my need for it. It was clear he was out of his league, he became frustrated by it, and just ended the conversation with, 'Here, take your poison!' and prescribed it to me.

I don't have a doubt in my mind this particular board can give more appropriate info on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) than the average endocrinologist.

Thoms got it right on.
and check out the big brain on the guy preaching,,,same ol, same ol.. I glad he is trying to save my life

 

[CaptainAwesome]

Agree. Vast majority of docs, even endos don't know shit about supplementing with steroids. I had an "off the record" convo about them with my old endo that I saw for diabetes and she didn't know shit. I educated her. And she's a very smart doctor. Johns Hopkins Medical School ain't no joke.

my uncle is a successful doctor in manhattan & his son went from lanky 150 pounds to a fucking bull that must weight 280 in less than a year and the uncle swears his son wouldnt use that stuff.

 

[Tsaunders]

Thoms got it right on.
and check out the big brain on the guy preaching,,,same ol, same ol.. I glad he is trying to save my life

The point is this. You, nor I, really no one, knows what Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) can really do.... As bleach said, there are risks, but you try to minimize the sides and hope for the best.

I never said dont do steroids, I am just talking about risks they might have, and what the probably do have.

For me, steroids and being sterile is a very real possibility, as our fellow swole bodice builder Johny J has stated. That is enough for me to not use them again

 

[879654]

Any and everything taken in excess is dangerous. Steroids, water, tranny's, etc.

The responsible people who get blood work done, take the necessary supplemental chems and run a proper post cycle therapy (pct) have little to fear imo. Unless of course, everything that all of the people who post on these boards based on their own experiences are false.