Newbie, first test cycle, debating between test e or test prop?

[bbutler3442]

Im really new to this site, so lots of questions and i need someone with expirence, i plan on starting a test only cylce since it will be my first time, ive takin tren acetate for 2 cycles and saw great strength just not alot of size, im debating on taking test prop or test e? I know test e runs at 500mg per week with 2 injects but dont know how long to run the cycle, for test prop i havent really found any forums to help with mg, or with how long to run the cylce, i know with test prop theres more frequent injects which dont bother me non, so im just trying to find out which is the better product as far as side effects, size, strength and so on. As pct goes i am clueless ive heard so many different products and mg to use, my stats are 21yrs 215lbs about 5'10, please throw me as much comments and info as you can

 

[KaiserSose]

Test is test you can run prop just as long as you would run e if you wanted to but the idea is that if oh want to run a long cycle why not just use a long ester and eliminate all the pinning, prop is a little stronger due to the ester weight, if you have run 500 mg in the past with test e, I am assuming you have run test before since you say you have done tren, then you. Can run that with the prop or even more it all just boils down to what you want a long or short cycle, less pinning, etc

 

[bbutler3442]

ive never run any test before, ive just seen from different forums to run 500mg/ per week for test e, but just dont know how long to run the cycle, and when i did tren for my 2 cycles it was tren only

 

[KaiserSose]

OOoh..don't make that mistake again, I would suggest test e 500mgs a week for 12 weeks you will be very pleased

 

[Yes]

I been wanting to run prop for a long time but just never got around to it. If I ran it I would probly run it at 200mg eod with tren ace at 100mg eod. I've ran Sustanon 250 eod and find it to work much better for me than just test. I don't know if that has anything to do with the prop or not.

 

[bbutler3442]

ok, but i heard that test prop is alot stronger? might be a myth might not, but if i ran test e 500mg/ per week for 12 weeks what should i do about pct? cuz im totally clueless on that? and ya i found out the hard way of running tren by itself lol thanks for all the input i just wanna make sure my first test run is superb!!!!!!

 

[MeatHead96]

ok, but i heard that test prop is alot stronger? might be a myth might not, but if i ran test e 500mg/ per week for 12 weeks what should i do about pct? cuz im totally clueless on that? and ya i found out the hard way of running tren by itself lol thanks for all the input i just wanna make sure my first test run is superb!!!!!!

No prop is not a lot stronger. Test is test. Test enth I would run around 12 weeks. It takes 3-4 weeks to fully kick in due to the long ester. Test prop could be run 8-10 weeks because it kicks in faster. Yes test enth can be injected twice weekly. Test prop needs to be injected at least EOD preferably ED. The goal is to keep blood levels as stable as possible.

 

[KaiserSose]

No prop is not a lot stronger. Test is test. Test enth I would run around 12 weeks. It takes 3-4 weeks to fully kick in due to the long ester. Test prop could be run 8-10 weeks because it kicks in faster. Yes test enth can be injected twice weekly. Test prop needs to be injected at least EOD preferably ED. The goal is to keep blood levels as stable as possible.

Its a little stronger, not an incredible difference but their is more test mg for mg in prop than e

 

[bbutler3442]

ok that helps alot, ill prolly run test prop for 8-10 weeks, what should be my mg ed or eod? and still clueless on the post cycle therapy (pct), which do you guys prefer? and how should that be ran?

 

[funkymonk]

100mg EoD of prop is pretty standard. Comes out to about 300mg of actual test a week, whereas 500mg/wk of E or C comes closer to 350mg of actual test due to ester weight.

I am impatient, and don't like the idea of any substance taking weeks to kick in and filter out, so I will be running prop for my first cycle. Pinning does not bother me in the least. In fact, I get a sort of (twisted?) enjoyment out of it.

 

[branman2012]

im going to be doing test E with 250mg twice injections (500mg) im also gonna kickstart it with dbol.. good idea?

 

[bbutler3442]

my buddy just got off dbol and ran the same cycle your thinking about, just be careful with the dbol and were u get it, he had bad bad side effects for the first 5 weeks......and my question if i ran test prop for 8-10 weeks at 100mg eod, can anyone help me with pct? im so clueless on it and thats how i fucked up my tren cycle

 

[coltmc45]

Read the sticky at the top of the discussion forum called standard PCT's. Good info there.

 

[KaiserSose]

To me 100 eod is a very conservative dose, I like 150 better but that my .02. A standard nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50 is a good pct for that cycle imo, look into hcg I know alot of guys who wont run even the lightest of cycles without it, have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand use it only if needed , eat like a mofo drink a minimum of a gallon of water a day, sleep good every night, and you should be all good! Good luck