Ok so after being misinformed about how to do my first test only cycle, I've now been properly informed half way through my twelve week cycle, that I should have been running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and, I think nolva or clomid. I now have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and arimidex. I'm taking .5mg arimidex every other day and just started Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500 iu the day before I pin my Cypionate. My question is since I'm starting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) halfway through my cycle should I dose higher to make up for list time or does it not work that way?? Also I pin Test on Monday and friday so should I split my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) doses and do two week as well? Lastly I'm not experiencing any sides from my dose of test (400mg 2's a week) so is it still necessary to run the arimidex or what? If I'm doing things wrong here can someone help guide me the right way?
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Kane_Red_Machine
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welcome on steroidology, before to get any advice, would you like yto introduce yourself with hiehgt, weigh, age, and when you started trainning.
what i've heard/read about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) most is that if you don't take it BEFORE your balls start shrinking, there's really not much point in taking it until after your test cycle is done to jumpstart prior to pct.
but like pretty much everything else in the aas world if you ask 10 people the same question you'll get 10 different responses, 6 or 7 that are "the ONLY way to do it" and maybe if you're lucky 1 that makes sense to you.
come to think of, much of the military is very similar...
First off 800mg a week of test for your first cycle is way too much. second you dont need to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on a test only cycle and it is good to have arimidex on hand just in case estrogen gets too high. third clomid should be used as pct not through cycle.
Linebacker10
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The clomid should wait until the end of the cycle...and did you mean (200mgs x twice a week = 400mgs) of test per week??? or (400mgs x twice a week = 800mgs)??? the 800 is way too much for a 1st cycle and that means you should mayb consider the arimidex at 0.5mgs ed due to inevitable sides...if youre at the 400mgs keep the dex on hand, or eod just to be sure is cool...good luck
Hi guys. Im 30 yrs old. 6'4" 311 lbs as of yesterday and about 20%bf. Been lifting since I started football back in 1996.
Ok. Thanks for the response. Its all a learning process and im def in the beginning stages of learning.
No I meant what I said. I pin 400mgs 2 times a week for a total of 800mg/week. Im in week six and I feel great. i was at 294lbs when i started and im at 311 today. I know alot of that is water im sure but as far as other sides go, I have no gyno and my balls are still huge as hell. I started arimidex every other day last week only so late because I just got my hands on it.
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Yea well I 1.) I got excited to start and 2.) I thought my "guy" at the gym knew what he was talking about so I just followed his direction. didnt think I needed to do much more since I assumed he knew what he was talking about.
i would not think that 800 would be WAY too high given your size. people say that the number of receptors increases as you add muscle. someone who is 300lbs would thus have more receptors than someone who is 180lbs.
800mg/week of test is a lot for a first cycle. but if you're not seeing negative sides, and given your size, instead of fucking with your blood levels now that they are flowing nice and stable it doesn't seem out of line to keep running it. of course, you could drop it some and see how the gains go. i was over 210 when i started at 6'2 but very low body fat (clear cut abs all that) and have been doing 600mg/week.
anyway, i'm new to this stuff, but those are my thoughts for what little (to nothing) they are worth.
wait around until the vets chime in though.
dtinhp
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i would not think that 800 would be WAY too high given your size. people say that the number of receptors increases as you add muscle. someone who is 300lbs would thus have more receptors than someone who is 180lbs.
800mg/week of test is a lot for a first cycle. but if you're not seeing negative sides, and given your size, instead of fucking with your blood levels now that they are flowing nice and stable it doesn't seem out of line to keep running it. of course, you could drop it some and see how the gains go. i was over 210 when i started at 6'2 but very low body fat (clear cut abs all that) and have been doing 600mg/week.
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800mg/week of test is a lot for a first cycle. but if you're not seeing negative sides, and given your size, instead of fucking with your blood levels now that they are flowing nice and stable it doesn't seem out of line to keep running it. of course, you could drop it some and see how the gains go. i was over 210 when i started at 6'2 but very low body fat (clear cut abs all that) and have been doing 600mg/week.
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tacoma2000
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am Newbie to this forum.
6'1"
205
approx 10% bf
35
clean eater and I've been working out for 10 years..
I'm looking to run a cycle. I haven't done any gear in a few years. I feel like my nat test production has diminished, don't have the drive or motivation in the gym I used to have. I want a boost and to put on 10-15lbs clean lbs with the least androgenic side affects possible. Any suggestions on a cycle? I've been asking around at my gym and I'm skeptical about all this ug stuff the guys I know have. Anyone ever heard of Griffin or Genesis Labs? Thanks.
6'1"
205
approx 10% bf
35
clean eater and I've been working out for 10 years..
I'm looking to run a cycle. I haven't done any gear in a few years. I feel like my nat test production has diminished, don't have the drive or motivation in the gym I used to have. I want a boost and to put on 10-15lbs clean lbs with the least androgenic side affects possible. Any suggestions on a cycle? I've been asking around at my gym and I'm skeptical about all this ug stuff the guys I know have. Anyone ever heard of Griffin or Genesis Labs? Thanks.
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Thanks again for your input fellas. I feel pretty good with the 800mg/wk and I have just enough bottles to get me through my last six weeks so ill stay there and see how much i get out of this. now to focus on straightening out my pct.
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