Newbie Started First Cycle & Having Complications. PLEASE HELP

[nickysouth]

Hey everyone. I am new to this steriod and forum stuff. I di see some very educated people on here and am hoping for some help. I am 30 years old. 5' 9" and about 215 LBS. I am pretty big bone but not all all toned up. So I wanted to try some teriods to get big. This is my dilema. I was reccommended a test/winny stack. So I got 10 mls of TEST BLEND 250. has test cypionate, propionate, enanthate, & decanoate. Also a 10 ml bottle of stanozolol 50.

I was told by the guy I got it from to start with 1 ml of stan & 1 ml of the test stacked in one shoot and shoot it in shoulder or leg. So the first shoot I did in my shoulder week one. I had a terrible swelling and pain for a week. Also red bloocthes. So he said do the second shoot in my leg. I did and got even worse. Had a huge swelling, red and could barely walk. My brother said this guy is an idiot and I should be shooting in my ass cheek. SO! 3rd shoot did away with stan. and shoot 1 ml of test in ass cheek. No problems what so ever.

So my question to the pros is, I was told at this point not to waste the stan and just drink the 1 ml orally when I do my test shoots. Is this ok? Or should I do away with the stan all together? Also could it be if I stack it and shoot it in my ass it will be fine.

I know I will get answers like you shouldnt do it at all. None of it, and I can appreciate that but I plan on keep going. I just wanted advise from this forum because like I said I saw some very educated people on here. And I really want to do both bottles to get the most out of it.

Sorry for the long story but wanted to be very detailed as I would love a detailed theory of what to do.
Thanks in advance guys!!

 

[brother bundy]

your going to need alot more then just one bottle of test

 

[HeavyJ]

Hey everyone. I am new to this steriod and forum stuff. I di see some very educated people on here and am hoping for some help. I am 30 years old. 5' 9" and about 215 LBS. I am pretty big bone but not all all toned up. So I wanted to try some teriods to get big. This is my dilema. I was reccommended a test/winny stack. So I got 10 mls of TEST BLEND 250. has test cypionate, propionate, enanthate, & decanoate. Also a 10 ml bottle of stanozolol 50.

I was told by the guy I got it from to start with 1 ml of stan & 1 ml of the test stacked in one shoot and shoot it in shoulder or leg. So the first shoot I did in my shoulder week one. I had a terrible swelling and pain for a week. Also red bloocthes. So he said do the second shoot in my leg. I did and got even worse. Had a huge swelling, red and could barely walk. My brother said this guy is an idiot and I should be shooting in my ass cheek. SO! 3rd shoot did away with stan. and shoot 1 ml of test in ass cheek. No problems what so ever.

So my question to the pros is, I was told at this point not to waste the stan and just drink the 1 ml orally when I do my test shoots. Is this ok? Or should I do away with the stan all together? Also could it be if I stack it and shoot it in my ass it will be fine.

I know I will get answers like you shouldnt do it at all. None of it, and I can appreciate that but I plan on keep going. I just wanted advise from this forum because like I said I saw some very educated people on here. And I really want to do both bottles to get the most out of it.

Sorry for the long story but wanted to be very detailed as I would love a detailed theory of what to do.
Thanks in advance guys!!

no pro here but thinking, the "pros" will probably hint towards some of the answers you already mentioned.

 

[VengeanceX7]

Winny on first cycle is a no go. Drop that fucking Winstrol (winny) you'll thank us later. Get more test you need at least 2 more vials. Also do you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or post cycle therapy (pct) lined up or even know what that is. I suggest since you already started with no information you read the stickies and do research for the next couple days straight and learn

 

[nickysouth]

Winny on first cycle is a no go. Drop that fucking Winstrol (winny) you'll thank us later. Get more test you need at least 2 more vials. Also do you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or post cycle therapy (pct) lined up or even know what that is. I suggest since you already started with no information you read the stickies and do research for the next couple days straight and learn

No Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or post cycle therapy (pct) lined up and your correct I do not know what that is. And I will spend the next few days reading about this. So ill drop the Winstrol (winny). Should I stick to 1 ml of the test per week? And should I see any results from the first bottle of test or no? ! more question, is the test I have any good in your opinoin>?

 

[username1]

this is going to come off rude but, i just have to say i can't believe you're 30 and you did not care enough to do enough research prior to injecting stuff in your body that you have no clue about. there are teens or young people that come here time to time that have no clue and want to get started and i can understand being young and dumb but, at 30? you're supposed to be an adult and be able to make wise decisions. I'm 31 and I'd never just blindly start injecting myself like that. I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (testosterone therapy) and it took me months of research before I even started that and that is legally prescribed to me.

wow, just wow...

No Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or post cycle therapy (pct) lined up and your correct I do not know what that is. And I will spend the next few days reading about this. So ill drop the Winstrol (winny). Should I stick to 1 ml of the test per week? And should I see any results from the first bottle of test or no? ! more question, is the test I have any good in your opinoin>?

 

[nickysouth]

this is going to come off rude but, i just have to say i can't believe you're 30 and you did not care enough to do enough research prior to injecting stuff in your body that you have no clue about. there are teens or young people that come here time to time that have no clue and want to get started and i can understand being young and dumb but, at 30? you're supposed to be an adult and be able to make wise decisions. I'm 31 and I'd never just blindly start injecting myself like that. I'm on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (testosterone therapy) and it took me months of research before I even started that and that is legally prescribed to me.

wow, just wow...

Well I knew this was coming. Who said I knew nothing at all what i was injecting>? Maybe uneducated on how and what I should do proir and after but its not like im pinning heroin. I agree with you but cant cry over spilled milk. Hence the reason I am here because I obviously know I needed to learn more. The answer above you was much more helpful. DROP THE FUCKIN Winstrol (winny) would of been fine, which is all I was looking for. Thanks again for the advise. Oh and by the way, as far as "YOUR TEST" being perscribed to you means horse shit to me. I live in Florida where a dozen of my friends are perscribed 200 oxycontin a month so I guess that makes it all nice and peachy because its perscribed. Thanks again for the helpful advice moving forward.

 

[username1]

I wasn't saying that you don't know anything about the substances themselves or how to inject but, about the whole process like you don't know what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or PCT is, what I was saying is that you're basically putting these things into your body without thinking of the consequences or anything, you just blindly started injecting and didn't even think to know and understand these things before you do this. This isn't a game, you can fuck yourself up if you don't know what your'e doing and put your ass on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life, so your comparison to heroin is not such a great one.

I don't know what you're talking about people in your area being prescribed 200 oxy a month. I was just telling you that when I was diagnosed with low-t and they gave me the plans, and told me about the meds and everything that I did not even just blindly trust them and start injecting myself. I took months of research myself to figure out what I'm putting in my body and it will do to me in the long run, in the short term, what will the AI's do, what are some consequences I'll have to deal with, lipids, (cholestrol, hemocrit, bp)..etc. all these things. Until I was informed enough, then I felt comfortable to start.

That's all I was telling you that I did my homework regardless if the doctors were ready to prescribe to me because I felt like I didn't know enough at that time and I wanted to research and get educated before I went down this road.

Anyway, what's done is done so I'm out of this thread if anything I hope you will learn to make better decisions, and you can start with that now by, reading all the stickies. All the stickies have all the info you need, you will learn what PCT is, Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if you have questions, then search since I can assure you the same question has been asked numerous times and you'll find your answers. When I first got here, that's all I did, even when I wanted to ask a question I would go and search first and 95% of the time find my answer, and while I was learning I pretty much never even needed to post to ask anything because all the info is already here, just read everything and get informed.

Good Luck

Well I knew this was coming. Who said I knew nothing at all what i was injecting>? Maybe uneducated on how and what I should do proir and after but its not like im pinning heroin. I agree with you but cant cry over spilled milk. Hence the reason I am here because I obviously know I needed to learn more. The answer above you was much more helpful. DROP THE FUCKIN Winstrol (winny) would of been fine, which is all I was looking for. Thanks again for the advise. Oh and by the way, as far as "YOUR TEST" being perscribed to you means horse shit to me. I live in Florida where a dozen of my friends are perscribed 200 oxycontin a month so I guess that makes it all nice and peachy because its perscribed. Thanks again for the helpful advice moving forward.

 

[Atomsk]

No Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or pct lined up and your correct I do not know what that is. And I will spend the next few days reading about this. So ill drop the Winstrol (winny). Should I stick to 1 ml of the test per week? And should I see any results from the first bottle of test or no? ! more question, is the test I have any good in your opinoin>?

you should spend the next few MONTHS reading and learning WTF you are doing. You are very ignorant at this point

 

[getbig9198]

cat fight

 

[Robbinthehood]

I'm glad your friends are all on OxyContin. That will really help your situation.

Drop the attitude and read the stickies.

Red and swollen could mean an infection. Is it warm to the touch? And one vial of test blend is no where near enough.

 

[nickysouth]

I wasn't saying that you don't know anything about the substances themselves or how to inject but, about the whole process like you don't know what Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or PCT is, what I was saying is that you're basically putting these things into your body without thinking of the consequences or anything, you just blindly started injecting and didn't even think to know and understand these things before you do this. This isn't a game, you can fuck yourself up if you don't know what your'e doing and put your ass on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life, so your comparison to heroin is not such a great one.

I don't know what you're talking about people in your area being prescribed 200 oxy a month. I was just telling you that when I was diagnosed with low-t and they gave me the plans, and told me about the meds and everything that I did not even just blindly trust them and start injecting myself. I took months of research myself to figure out what I'm putting in my body and it will do to me in the long run, in the short term, what will the AI's do, what are some consequences I'll have to deal with, lipids, (cholestrol, hemocrit, bp)..etc. all these things. Until I was informed enough, then I felt comfortable to start.

That's all I was telling you that I did my homework regardless if the doctors were ready to prescribe to me because I felt like I didn't know enough at that time and I wanted to research and get educated before I went down this road.

Anyway, what's done is done so I'm out of this thread if anything I hope you will learn to make better decisions, and you can start with that now by, reading all the stickies. All the stickies have all the info you need, you will learn what PCT is, Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if you have questions, then search since I can assure you the same question has been asked numerous times and you'll find your answers. When I first got here, that's all I did, even when I wanted to ask a question I would go and search first and 95% of the time find my answer, and while I was learning I pretty much never even needed to post to ask anything because all the info is already here, just read everything and get informed.

Good Luck

I apologize for coming off so strong. Just felt like you could of come at me a little different but I see your point and again I apologize. Thank you and I will do the research. Came here to learn, thats it. Should of done that first but I didnt.

 

[nickysouth]

I am very ignorant. But like I said above. Its to late to go back and not take my first shot, so I came here to learn. Thats all guys. Thanks!

 

[nickysouth]

Red gone, swollen gone. Been taking antibiotics for last few days and it went away. thanks, I am learning guys. Like I said above. Picked up 2 more vials of test blend 250. Thanks, lesson learned. I will do my research. So the 2 vials of Winstrol (winny) I should dump>?? alll agreed? everyone is telling me to just shoot it down my throat orally but the more i read sounds bad. So for now I have done away with the winny.

 

[hell yeah lesbians!]

I am so glad I found the Ology before some juice pimp in the gym gotta hold of me and fucked me all up.

 

[nickysouth]

I hear ya. My whole thing was I never even been in a gym. Just so happen to have a group of friends that are really into their body. They have all been doing juice for years. I have always been on the bigger side but not cut. Always 200 Lbs plus since im 16 years old. So I asked one of them to get me some juice. He made it sound so easy. Knowing that I was not gonna go crazy just wanted to shred up a bit he made it sound so easy. Here, 1 ml every week and work out like fuckin crazy. Thats it. Being that he was a friend I trusted him. My mistake, I def should of done the research and not counted on anyone else. Lesson learned. Just glad I learned before Im all fucked up. That shit on my leg fucked me up good, couldnt even walk.

 

[xato]

this board is the best around and everyone new to the aas world should come here and learn

 

[hell yeah lesbians!]

I hear ya. My whole thing was I never even been in a gym. Just so happen to have a group of friends that are really into their body. They have all been doing juice for years. I have always been on the bigger side but not cut. Always 200 Lbs plus since im 16 years old. So I asked one of them to get me some juice. He made it sound so easy. Knowing that I was not gonna go crazy just wanted to shred up a bit he made it sound so easy. Here, 1 ml every week and work out like fuckin crazy. Thats it. Being that he was a friend I trusted him. My mistake, I def should of done the research and not counted on anyone else. Lesson learned. Just glad I learned before Im all fucked up. That shit on my leg fucked me up good, couldnt even walk.

Yeah my buddy who first piqued my interest in AAS said he had a great source and told me to hit him up for whatever I needed. So i start doing some research and eventually I ask about making some moves. When I get to the post cycle therapy (pct) portion of my wish list, he's like "what the hell is this stuff?" and i tell him it's for recovery. He goes on to say that in his 12+ cycles he's never once done post cycle therapy (pct) and that I wouldn't need it. Having ran a superdrol cycle before I knew for a fact that, not only was he wrong, but he was also an idiot.

Stick around man. There's a great bunch of dudes around here and they'll do their best to get you sorted out. You're going to learn a lot and eventually you'll be the one rolling your eyes when you see a thread similar to yours pop up

 

[Slickspurs]

Read Read Read! Tons of info to find here. You will be studying for weeks. Check out the training and diet forums as well.

 

[pharaoh]

wow @ this thread. should be injecting the test twice a week mon/thur should be injecting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @250 iu twice a week as well. Should hava nolva and clomid on hand for pct. Start pct 14-21 days after last injection. Read the PCT stickies and newb stickies in the forum. Also read the collagen synthesis sticky and get rid of the Winstrol (winny) before you tear a rotator cuff or something.

and also just accept the insults because trust me you deserve them at this point.