Next cycle thoughts. Thanks in advance

[carrerarich]

Weeks 1-10 Super rip. 50mg each test p, tren a, mast p. Total of 350mg of each.
Weeks 1-4 dbol @40mg
Weeks 6-12 Var(var into pct)
Weeks 1-10 hcg @ 250iu x 2 a week
Weeks 1-4 nolvadex 20mg
Weeks 1-4 Adex .5 e3d then eod weeks 4-10
Weeks 1-10 2weeks on and off: -Clen @120mcg and ECA
Weeks 1-10 t3 @ 25mcg
Diet is with 3j and will be geared towards a cut

Thanks

 

[PrinceDianabol]

1. Don't run var into PCT. I'm sorry but thats plain stupid, you should know better by now.

2. Your AI should be higher while your on the dbol.. Not after it

3. Why nolva first 4 weeks? Are you super gyno prone or something?

Otherwise looks good. Should be in for an awesome cut.

 

[traps09]

^^^^ that sounds about right. Asking same question regarding the Nolva first 4 weeks.....

 

[carrerarich]

Honestly I've only heard of it last week on a different forum. Saying nolvadex is a must when on db to prevent Gyno and when dbol is finished up the Ai

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Honestly I've only heard of it last week on a different forum. Saying nolvadex is a must when on db to prevent Gyno and when dbol is finished up the Ai

Ugh. Who told you that? Dbol aromatises like a mofo, meaning when your on it you will definetely have a lot more estrogen. Which is why you need a higher dose of AI to combat that. When you come off dbol you should lower the dose as your only controlling the e2 coming from the test.

And if you get gyno its only because you failed to control your estrogen. And in any case, raloxifen would be the better choice for gyno prevention/reversal. Leave nolva for PCT.

What is your PCT by the way?

 

[carrerarich]

Ugh. Who told you that? Dbol aromatises like a mofo, meaning when your on it you will definetely have a lot more estrogen. Which is why you need a higher dose of AI to combat that. When you come off dbol you should lower the dose as your only controlling the e2 coming from the test.

And if you get gyno its only because you failed to control your estrogen. And in any case, raloxifen would be the better choice for gyno prevention/reversal. Leave nolva for PCT.

What is your PCT by the way?

Thanks for your input. I hate bro science what u recommend for an Adex dose and pct?

 

[Pitbull55]

Ugh. Who told you that? Dbol aromatises like a mofo, meaning when your on it you will definetely have a lot more estrogen. Which is why you need a higher dose of AI to combat that. When you come off dbol you should lower the dose as your only controlling the e2 coming from the test.

This is the first I ever heard of raising AI while on d-bol and then dropping it back once you stop..learn something new every day on here, thanks for that!

Care to share how you would adjust? (I realize it varies by AI choice, person, etc.) Just looking for more input

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Thanks for your input. I hate bro science what u recommend for an Adex dose and pct?

Hard to say as everyones different with AIs. Start off with 0.5mg eod, then adjust if need be when you get your bloodwork. If your not doing bloods for whatever reason, judge by libido, mood and water retention. That's not the most accurate way though so I suggest bloodwork. After the dbol you can drop the dose to 0.25mg eod, and adjust as necessary.

As for PCT, it should always look like this at a minimum:

Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

Each number represents the daily dose for that week
Any other questions feel free to shoot

 

[PrinceDianabol]

This is the first I ever heard of raising AI while on d-bol and then dropping it back once you stop..learn something new every day on here, thanks for that!

Care to share how you would adjust? (I realize it varies by AI choice, person, etc.) Just looking for more input

Yep, dbol aromatises into methylestradiol and floods your blood pretty quick.. That why its so common to get the moon face and carry heaps of water. Also why you will almost always notice a drop in weight after coming off it. The extra water is great for strength gains though.

 

[oldmusclemike]

Sorry to say. the whole cycle sucks and at this point I'll not take the time to explain because in my opinion you have not the education in AAS usage to understand all the reasoning. I AM NOT BASHING YOU.

You admitted you only heard of some of this Cycle info a week ago. Also you are posting reply's that show the lack of knowledge for most general things. Like running Nolva wk 1-4 changing dosage of Adex and much more. Never arbitrarily raise and or lower AI's with out going by how you feel and support w/ blood work.
You don't run Var or anything right into PCT except your AI, Adex.

NOW as usual, your complete stats history and Goals please? Don't you think we should know what body we are working with

 

[oldmusclemike]

Ugh. Who told you that? Dbol aromatises like a mofo, meaning when your on it you will definetely have a lot more estrogen. Which is why you need a higher dose of AI to combat that. When you come off dbol you should lower the dose as your only controlling the e2 coming from the test.

And if you get gyno its only because you failed to control your estrogen. And in any case, raloxifen would be the better choice for gyno prevention/reversal. Leave nolva for PCT.

What is your PCT by the way?

Hard to say as everyones different with AIs. Start off with 0.5mg eod, then adjust if need be when you get your bloodwork. If your not doing bloods for whatever reason, judge by libido, mood and water retention. That's not the most accurate way though so I suggest bloodwork. After the dbol you can drop the dose to 0.25mg eod, and adjust as necessary.

As for PCT, it should always look like this at a minimum:

Clomid: 100/50/50/50
Nolva: 40/20/20/20

Each number represents the daily dose for that week
Any other questions feel free to shoot

Yep, dbol aromatises into methylestradiol and floods your blood pretty quick.. That why its so common to get the moon face and carry heaps of water. Also why you will almost always notice a drop in weight after coming off it. The extra water is great for strength gains though.

Honestly I've only heard of it last week on a different forum. Saying nolvadex is a must when on db to prevent Gyno and when dbol is finished up the Ai

HI again, and remember I am not flaming you. If anyone even yourself reads this tgread from post one to post nine (9) it is obvious by Q's and Answers you are not educated on sme important needed information to cycle properly. If we just tell you and put it together you may have a cycle but will not understand our reasoning then that jus becomes Bro-Science for you. Then someone asks you why you did this or that and you answer because this is what they said on this forum.
Please hold back and start reading up more. Estrogen and Prolactin, Sides of High an low Estrogen, Gyno, steroid profiles and more. Good luck now

 

[carrerarich]

HI again, and remember I am not flaming you. If anyone even yourself reads this tgread from post one to post nine (9) it is obvious by Q's and Answers you are not educated on sme important needed information to cycle properly. If we just tell you and put it together you may have a cycle but will not understand our reasoning then that jus becomes Bro-Science for you. Then someone asks you why you did this or that and you answer because this is what they said on this forum.
Please hold back and start reading up more. Estrogen and Prolactin, Sides of High an low Estrogen, Gyno, steroid profiles and more. Good luck now

Wow thanks!

dbol cycle advice - Page 3

 

[Kurdish Pitbull]

Waaaaay to many compounds.....you shouldn't even be looking at tren...and then 2 orals? Wth are you thinking man? What is your goal here?

 

[oldmusclemike]

It's amusing and sad to see these people thinking that this compound and that compound will do this then the other will do that and so on. Then I will end up looking like this.... hello?
I got the magical stack really it doesn't work like that.
Tren people think is for cutting, well after you have built mass, but it is more to build LEAN MASS without the bloat and bulk along with bulking.

 

[carrerarich]

Shall I drop the dbol then?

 

[SamSport]

what's your goal with this cycle. Drop the nolva during cycle and only use adex, cant comment on dosage.

edit : nvm just saw you're looking to cut.. Dbol isnt necessary

 

[SamSport]

you could bump t3 to 50-75 mcg, 25 mcg is low dosage.. var during pct is counter-productive. Other than that it looks good; Test/tren/mast is very popular cycle to cut. Just keep dosage low since your goal should be to maintain muscle mass.. 300mg of each would be WAY ENOUGH to do this.. even 250mg would be more than needed (even on heavily restricted calorie diet). Have prami / bromo / caber on hand.. or use it for the whole cycle; you make the call on this one. Usually when you got estro under control prolactin sides doesnt show up.. in my experience at least

 

[carrerarich]

what's your goal with this cycle. Drop the nolva during cycle and only use adex, cant comment on dosage.

edit : nvm just saw you're looking to cut.. Dbol isnt necessary

Finally some nice advice instead of bashing (oldmusclemike) so thanks. Gonna drop dbol and save it for winter test deca dbol cycle.

 

[carrerarich]

you could bump t3 to 50-75 mcg, 25 mcg is low dosage.. var during pct is counter-productive. Other than that it looks good; Test/tren/mast is very popular cycle to cut. Just keep dosage low since your goal should be to maintain muscle mass.. 300mg of each would be WAY ENOUGH to do this.. even 250mg would be more than needed (even on heavily restricted calorie diet). Have prami / bromo / caber on hand.. or use it for the whole cycle; you make the call on this one. Usually when you got estro under control prolactin sides doesnt show up.. in my experience at least

Was not gonna do var doing pct but up to pct. May just stick to test, tren, mast and keep it simple. Estrogen has been controlled well in the past with .5mg Adex eod.