No fat during the day... need opinions

[Jean-Claude]

Hey guys, like mentionned in the title, basically my diet consists of 4 carb/protein meals throughout the day with practically no fat at all and 2 big fat/protein meals at night.. What do you think? I need opinion on this if you think it's benificial or not to eat this way. Thanks!

 

[halfwit]

For starters, low fat diets are more harmful than good. Your hormones for instance are made from fats, so I'd try to get at least 15-20% of your calories a day from fats.

I have yet to read anything that tells me definitively that timing of certain macros is more beneficial than how much or the ratios in which they're consumed. The exception being that a slower digesting protein is optimal before bed and carbohydrates (preferably complex) an hour to two before training.

Unless you have adrenal issues; in which case, you're doing it backwards.

My .02c

 

[Jean-Claude]

For starters, low fat diets are more harmful than good. Your hormones for instance are made from fats, so I'd try to get at least 15-20% of your calories a day from fats.

I have yet to read anything that tells me definitively that timing of certain macros is more beneficial than how much or the ratios in which they're consumed. The exception being that a slower digesting protein is optimal before bed and carbohydrates (preferably complex) an hour to two before training.

Unless you have adrenal issues; in which case, you're doing it backwards.

My .02c

I'm probably getting at least 30% of my calories from fat with the diet I'm doing now and I have a shitton of trouble not going over that with these 2 meals.. calories of fat amount SOO freakin' quickly. I'm just doing it this way to have little to no fat when I'm having insuline spikes from the carbs.

 

[Roush]

Your basically cutting out fats during the day and cutting carbs at night.. Plenty of guys cut carbs out of their night time meals, and also go with slower digesting proteins at night.

As for cutting out fats completely during your carb meals,, I'm confused to how you are able to accomplish this.. Most the carbs I consume have some amounts of fat as well

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

You can have your fats whenever you want - including postworkout.

Here is a study where the individuals were given 165g of total fats postworkout, it made no difference whatsoever to glycogen resynthesis rates compared to the lower fat group when measurements were taken the next day:

Adding fat calories to meals after exercise does not alter glucose ... - PubMed - NCBI

As for the insulin spiking BULLSHIT that keeps cropping up, studies have shown that insulin levels as low as 30mU/l was enough to reduce muscle protein breakdown by 50-70%. You can achieve this level by eating any sort of meal, no need to avoid fat whatsoever.
On top of this, any further increase in insulin levels did NOT prevent protein breakdown any further OR increase the anabolic signal:

Disassociation between the effects of amino acids and insulin on si... - PubMed - NCBI

Basically, there is no such thing as fat timing and, as long as your consuming some carbs around your workouts, you shouldn't worry about "insulin spiking" or how fat may interfere with it

 

[Jean-Claude]

Your basically cutting out fats during the day and cutting carbs at night.. Plenty of guys cut carbs out of their night time meals, and also go with slower digesting proteins at night.

As for cutting out fats completely during your carb meals,, I'm confused to how you are able to accomplish this.. Most the carbs I consume have some amounts of fat as well

Well I do have some fat in my meals during the day but like very little say maybe 3-4 grams as opposed to 60 grams of carbs and 40 grams of protein or so