Noob here with greetings and some cocerns

[dogtag10r]

Hello fellow members...I just joined the forum and wanted to introduce myself..started my first cycle exactly 6 weeks ago..a lil about myself...im 29 5"11
starting weight 172lbs with 16% bf
..Ive been workin out for about 10 years and after trying everything out there and not seeing any major results i decided to start a cycle...went to a local ******** as they had someone who preps people for bodybuilding shows..I had no clue how to start so that seemed like a good idea...now after spending ***** that I didnt have im a little skeptical about the quality of the products i recieved...
this was the cycle suggested by the store "pro"
600mg of test / week
500mg of deca
75mg of dbol/day

now after 6 exact weeks ive gained about 9 lbs but i feel like the diet has a lot to do with it..ive decided to get bloodwork done and will post it here and hope that the gear i got was legit.am i right in thinking so?...hope to recieve some quality help from yall
thanks

 

[Megatron28]

Blood work will tell you if your gear is real. See my signature below for info on getting blood work. Do you know what panels to run?

He didn't set you up with a very good first cycle. We typically recommend just Testosterone. Read the stickies to learn why.

Did he provide you with any ancillaries? Aromatase Inhibitor? Dopamine Agonist? PCT (Clomid/Nolva)? hCG?

Can you lay out the full cycle you are running. Dosages. Pinning frequencies. Time lengths. Ancillaries. PCT.

Did you get pre-cycle blood work to know your Natty basline.?

 

[dogtag10r]

12 week cycle with first 5 weeks dbol 75mg ed, 25mg every 4 hours, 3 times a day.
12 weeks test e 300mg tue/thu
10 week deca 250mg tue/thu
aromasin 25mg 3 mon/wed/fri
clomid for pct
had blood work done about 5 months go with very low test(400), thats all I remember from it. did a female hormone panel test yesterday from privatemedlabs
thanks

 

[Megatron28]

12 week cycle with first 5 weeks dbol 75mg ed, 25mg every 4 hours, 3 times a day.
12 weeks test e 300mg tue/thu
10 week deca 250mg tue/thu
aromasin 25mg 3 mon/wed/fri
clomid for pct
had blood work done about 5 months go with very low test(400), thats all I remember from it. did a female hormone panel test yesterday from privatemedlabs
thanks

Aromasin has a pretty short half life. It is best taken daily. Try 12.5mg daily instead of what you are currently doing.


Deca has a really long half life which means it takes a long time to build up in your system. Running it for 10 weeks is too short. By the time it starts kicking in you will be stopping it shortly afterwards. We typically suggest running deca for at least 14 weeks. You should consider extending your cycle if you want to stay on the deca.

That leads me to the point of saying that a first cycle should be just Testosterone so that you can learn how your body reacts to it and you can learn how to manage side effects. Then you typically add in one new compound your next cycle. You may want to give serious considering to just running the test from here one out and save the other compounds for a future cycle. It isn't too late for this option.

PCT should be clomid and nolva together. You didn't list out how much you are going to use and for how long or when you are going to start PCT. Please list this.

You should run hCG while on cycle. It helps minimized testicular atrophy which in turn helps your HPTA recover faster after your cycle.

You didn't list a Dopamine Agonist? Do you have one? What are you going to do if the Deca spikes your Prolactin as 19-nor's are known to do? Are you familiar with the term "Deca Dick"? It isn't a fun situation.

You should really read the Sticky Threads. A good one to start with ia the 'Ology FAQs thread. It ia located in this forum. You are running a somewhat advanced cycle so you need to come up to speed quick and become an advanced user. Or simplifying the cycle would be better yet.

 

[dogtag10r]

thanks megatron for the info...i was told that aromasin is enough for this cycle and clomid for pct..i know im at fault for just trusting one person...what would you recommend I should use along with 12.5 mg of aromasin ed?
also here are the test results

Test Name
CBC With Differential/Platelet
WBC 9.5 RBC 4.96 Hemoglobin 13.4 Hematocrit 41.9 MCV 85 MCH 27.0 MCHC 32.0 RDW 13.7 Platelets 377 Neutrophils 51 Lymphs 21 Monocytes 5 Eos 23 Basos 0 Neutrophils (Absolute) 4.9 Lymphs (Absolute) 2.0 Monocytes(Absolute) 0.4 Eos (Absolute) 2.2 Baso (Absolute) 0.0 Immature Granulocytes 0 Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 Hematology Comments: Note:
Verified by microscopic examination.
Comp. ********* Panel (14)
Glucose, Serum
BUN
Creatinine, Serum
eGFR If NonAfricn Am
eGFR If Africn Am
BUN/Creatinine Ratio
Sodium, Serum
Potassium, Serum
Chloride, Serum
Carbon Dioxide, Total
Calcium, Serum
OR


Reference Range Lab
3.4-10.8 x10E3/uL 01 4.14-5.80 x10E6/uL 01 12.6-17.7 g/dL 01 37.5-51.0 % 01 79-97 fL 01 26.6-33.0 pg 01 31.5-35.7 g/dL 01 12.3-15.4 % 01 150-379 x10E3/uL 01
% 01 % 01 % 01 % 01 % 01
1.4-7.0 x10E3/uL 01 0.7-3.1 x10E3/uL 01 0.1-0.9 x10E3/uL 01 0.0-0.4 x10E3/uL 01 0.0-0.2 x10E3/uL 01
% 01 0.0-0.1 x10E3/uL 01 01
65-99 mg/dL 01 6-20 mg/dL 01 0.76-1.27 mg/dL 01
>59 mL/min/1.73 01
>59 mL/min/1.73 01 8-19 01 134-144 mmol/L 01 3.5-5.2 mmol/L 01 97-108 mmol/L 01 18-29 mmol/L 01 8.7-10.2 mg/dL 01
***65532;Protein, Total, Serum
Albumin, Serum
Globulin, Total
A/G Ratio
Bilirubin, Total
Alkaline Phosphatase, S
7.1
4.4
2.7
1.6
0.6
43
01
0- 11 days - 2-
10 days 1 year
Age
Male
8.6 - 10.4
9.2 - 11.0
9.1 - 10.5
8.9 - 10.4
8.7 - 10.2
8.6 - 10.2
Female
8.6 - 10.4
9.2 - 11.0
9.1 - 10.5
8.9 - 10.4
8.7 - 10.2
8.7 - 10.3
6.0-8.5 g/dL 01 3.5-5.5 g/dL 01 1.5-4.5 g/dL 01
1.1-2.5
0.0-1.2 mg/dL 01 39-117 IU/L 01
95
21 HIGH 1.12
88
102
19
138
4.8
101
24
9.6
**Effective January 19, 2015 the reference interval**
for Calcium, Serum will be changing to:
11 years
12 - 17 years
18 - 59 years
>59 years
HIGH
REPORT STATUS: FINAL
1 of 2
AST (SGOT)
ALT (SGPT)
Testosterone, Serum
Testosterone, Serum
Comment:
26 31
>1500 HIGH
0-40 IU/L 01 0-44 IU/L 01
348-1197 ng/dL 01 01
Comment
Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males
up to 40 years old.
Luteinizing Hormone(LH), S
LH <0.2 LOW FSH, Serum
FSH <0.2 LOW Estradiol
Estradiol 43.2 HIGH Roche ECLIA methodology
Performing Laboratory Information:
1.7-8.6 mIU/mL 01
1.5-12.4 mIU/mL 01
7.6-42.6 pg/mL 01
***65532;

 

[hiram1st]

Welcome to ology read the thread Meg alluded to and all its links:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

[dogtag10r]

thanks and pardon me for being an idiot but i still couldnt find what DA I would require
also how can I post the picture of the lab results instead of the stupid copy paste
thanks

 

[DucBase]

You might just take a pic with your phone and post that. It is really hard to make sense of but it appears your LH and FSH are low and your TT is over 1500, so your gear is doing something.

Prami/Caber are good to have on hand when running 19-nor's like deca. You can get it from the site sponsor with the banner up top (RUI).

ETA: I don't think most people use the DA until they need to. I've never actually needed it, but it's nice to know I've got it on hand.

 

[Mad- scientist]

If your natural test levels are 400ng/dl doing steroids in my opinion is going to put you on TRT. I would try to get to the bottom of why your levels are so low.

 

[dogtag10r]

thanks for all the info guys..il try to take a pic with the phone and post it also DUCBASE you read it right , since tt is above 1500 that means the test e im using is good but how do I know if the deca is good?

MADSCIENTIST i guess il have to see a doctor for that

 

[carverelli]

You'll know if the deca is legit when you start pushing a rope!

Near as I can tell, unless you gave a steroid test kit there isn't a cheap way to know about most other compounds. Thus is where you have to have. Trusted source

 

[dogtag10r]

is it really necessary to have hcg on hand or having just AI would be ok?
also, for pct is nolva clomid enough? THANKS

 

[DucBase]

is it really necessary to have hcg on hand or having just AI would be ok?
also, for pct is nolva clomid enough? THANKS

HCG is to keep your nuts working so the PCT works better/faster. I would use it for sure if you do this. Your natural levels aren't all that great anyway but they are worth trying to preserve. 250 iu 2x a week for the duration of the cycle. HCG isn't something you keep around in case you need it, you just use it.

 

[DeeXII]

is it really necessary to have hcg on hand or having just AI would be ok?
also, for pct is nolva clomid enough? THANKS

If you want to give your self the best chance to recover. If you are good with being on TRT for the rest of your life, roll the dice.

 

[dogtag10r]

damn bro now i just feel bad about the whole deal lol