obligatory shit on me before my first cycle thread

[cdiggity]

Hey guys, gearing up for my first cycle in the next week or two, and wanted to get advice before I give myself the go ahead.

Quick, some background:

age: 30
Experience: been lifting since I was 13, seriously since I was 22.
Goal: Bulking cycle.
Diet: TLR is I will be eating more chicken, rice, eggs, and veggies as I bulk up.

Here are my thoughts:
week 1-12:
Test Ethanate 500mg per week (250 on Monday, 250 on Thursday)
HCG 500iu per week (same as T above)
Extemestane 10mg everyday for 12 weeks (with cycle)

PCT is wait 2.5 weeks then:
Clomafene 50mg everyday for 4 weeks
Tamoxifen 40mg every day 2 weeks, then 20mg every day for 2 weeks

I did my bloodwork already so I have a base line, and plan to do bloods half way as well as in the end.

Thoughts? Anything I missed or need to consider before my first pin?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Hey guys, gearing up for my first cycle in the next week or two, and wanted to get advice before I give myself the go ahead.

Quick, some background:

age: 30
Experience: been lifting since I was 13, seriously since I was 22.
Goal: Bulking cycle.
Diet: TLR is I will be eating more chicken, rice, eggs, and veggies as I bulk up.

Here are my thoughts:
week 1-12:
Test Ethanate 500mg per week (250 on Monday, 250 on Thursday)
HCG 500iu per week (same as T above)
Extemestane 10mg everyday for 12 weeks (with cycle)

PCT is wait 2.5 weeks then:
Clomafene 50mg everyday for 4 weeks
Tamoxifen 40mg every day 2 weeks, then 20mg every day for 2 weeks

I did my bloodwork already so I have a base line, and plan to do bloods half way as well as in the end.

Thoughts? Anything I missed or need to consider before my first pin?

Sounds good to me. IT's just your basic cycle. Hey what are your stats ?

I am not educated with your choice of AI so please get some input so you don't crash or under do it. Your AI should be taken all the way up to PCT. Your test levels will remain high during these two weeks and hence so with the Estrogen may climb. With that in mind make sure you are truly educated with the sides of High n low Estrogen so you can have a close watch on yourself. Remember it's not all about Gyno . There is much more to E2 control. Crashing is horrible and can hurt a cycle.

Depending on how you want to look above ten pounds and it's all water. Fun to get big fast but as you come back down so will the water weight. Less water gain less to loose and get disappointed with.

Good luck

 

[cdiggity]

Sounds good to me. IT's just your basic cycle. Hey what are your stats ?

I am not educated with your choice of AI so please get some input so you don't crash or under do it. Your AI should be taken all the way up to PCT. Your test levels will remain high during these two weeks and hence so with the Estrogen may climb. With that in mind make sure you are truly educated with the sides of High n low Estrogen so you can have a close watch on yourself. Remember it's not all about Gyno . There is much more to E2 control. Crashing is horrible and can hurt a cycle.

Depending on how you want to look above ten pounds and it's all water. Fun to get big fast but as you come back down so will the water weight. Less water gain less to loose and get disappointed with.

Good luck

Hey man, thanks for that! Sounds like i need to get some more AI to last me for the full time up to PCT.

As for my stats, I am 5'9", 160lbs, 14-16% BF, and hoping to put on around 10lbs total or so. We will see how it goes!

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Again Mike is right about the AI. Do your best to not crash it, as this makes you feel shitty and greatly hinders progress. I know people who've done it, along with myself.

Some say E2 a little high is a lot better than E2 a little low.

What're your baseline test and E2 numbers?

 

[tbonexl]

Aromasin is a popular choice which is what op is using. One thing to add is run hcg with ai up to pct also.

 

[cdiggity]

Again Mike is right about the AI. Do your best to not crash it, as this makes you feel shitty and greatly hinders progress. I know people who've done it, along with myself.

Some say E2 a little high is a lot better than E2 a little low.

What're your baseline test and E2 numbers?

My test is 516 my E2 is 13.4 Would this change how much I would use?

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

No, I was just curious.

That's a decent test level.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Diet is the most important part of it and you dont have a real diet program. Spend the money on a professional diet program. It's really 80% of the the battle. If you dont eat the right thing in the right amount at the right time you won't reach the potential growth you should get from a cycle.

 

[cdiggity]

Several years ago I got a diet plan from 3j off of here. In the interest of space I didn't really post the whole thing, but it is essentially eating 5 eggs in the morning, several chicken breasts or fish fillets a day, brown rice, veggies, and ending with some nonfat Greek yogurt at night.

 

[cdiggity]

Thanks for the tip! I'm ordering some AI to hold me over until I PCT. Sadly my place requires that I spend way more than that for an order, so I'll have lots of extra Clomid etc on hand :-(

 

[juced_porkchop]

looks good