Of these, which HCG/SERM protocol you guys think is best?

[Lankyfrank]

Finally found a reliable source, going to start my first cycle soon. After reading about all the different ways to run ancillaries I've come up with a few different ways to run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and SERMs. (ALP=After last pin of test)

*Question 1: Which do you guys think is the best way to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and SERM? (I believe Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) #4 / SERM #2 is Scally's PCT protocol. Also, if anyone has any other suggestions please post.)

*Question 2: No need to run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during PCT correct? Also, what are the signs that I need to up the dost of the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle? (I'll be getting blood work done throughout every 4 weeks)

All:
Wk 1-12 Test-E 500mg (250x2)
Wk 1-12 Aromasin 6.25-12.5mg ED
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HCG:
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#1:
Wk 3-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu (250x2)
ALP: Day 1-10 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 1000iu EOD

#2:
Wk 1-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu (250x2)
ALP: Day 1-10 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500ius ED

#3:
Wk 1-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu (250x2)
ALP: Day 1-10 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 1000iu EOD

#4:
ALP: Day 1-20 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2000iu EOD
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SERM:
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#1: ALP
Day 14-28 Clomid 50mg ED / Nolvadex 40mg ED
Day 29-42 Clomid 50mg ED / Nolvadex 20 mg ED
(C 50/50/50/50 N 40/40/20/20)

#2: ALP
Day 1-30 Clomid 100mg ED
Day 1-45 Nolvadex 20 mg ED

#3: ALP
Day 14-28 Clomid 50mg ED / Nolvadex 20mg ED
Day 29-42 Clomid 50mg ED / Nolvadex 10 mg ED
Day 43-56 Nolvadex 10mg ED
(C 50/50/50/50 N 20/20/10/10/10/10)

 

[Iron Giant]

Out of your list (nice presentation by the way), I like Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) #2 & #3 (I like both equally) and SERM #1.
There is no need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during PCT, just leading up to it....itchy/burny nips would be a good indicator to up your AI.

 

[Lankyfrank]

Thanks iron. What do people think of Scallys post cycle therapy (pct)? Anyone tried it? Is a slightly different PCT going to even make that much of a diff for a just test cycle? I want to keep as much of the gains as poss

 

[Iron Giant]

I don't mind Scally's Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol because it would have you start PCT 21 days after last jab, but his SERM protocol (if I'm interpreting it correctly) has you starting PCT right after your last jab of test and overlapping with HCG...at this point you still have exceedingly high levels of test (test-e is a long ester) and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is suppressive on it's own (making PCT ineffective), so you're wasting the first 3 weeks of post cycle therapy (pct). Plus the clomid dose is higher than needed with nolva in the mix.