oh JESUS the pain!!!

[Spectre]

In the morning after a hot shower seems to help me. It kinda works in during the day due to normal movement. If I inject real late or before bed, I get a big knot.

Diluting with something else or sterile oil seems to be the ultimate.

 

[buffdoc]

I don't know why lidocaine would help. Its just a topical anesthetic right? If so, it would numb the area for a short time and I don't see how it would help with soreness that would set in well after the numbness wore off.

I never understood how lidocaine would help either, unless the pain was strictly an immedicate pain from BA.
Otherwise, the worst pains are from the gear "crashing" in the body, ie, crystallizing out of solution. This usually occurs after about 24 hours.

 

[house1]

bro proprop is painful

cut it bro

mix with some EQ or something else, deffinitely need to cut it bro, you will not avoid the pain otherwise using his prop

 

[SCG2]

well i've since done 2 more injections, but only .5cc of the proprop diluted with 1cc of prowinstrol. i also put it into the glutes. there is soreness, but its nothing out of the ordinary and quite managable. as for my quads, they still are quite painful. i can walk up and down stairs now with only moderate discomfort. it still hurts like bitch to try to sit down to toilet level though! thanks for all the advice. i'm going to start doing the injections in the morning so i can move around during the day.

other thoughts: the gear itself seems to be great. less than a week in and i already notice strength increases. the other big problem has been a fever. i'm pretty sure it was from the prop. i was pretty much out of commision all weekend.