PCT question i haven't seen yet...

YouthCrew88

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ok here's my background first:
34yr old male. 5'9", 195lbs, former soccer player turned olympic weightlifter

just finishing my first ever cycle
12 weeks of
100mg test prop every other day
50mg anavar every day

my pct will be:
50mg clomid 2x day for 30 days
30mg tamox 1x day for 40 days (taken concurrently)


my question is this:
going into my last week of test (anavar was done last week) I began taking the PCT meds. I know some people take the clomi/tamox during cycle. but I chose not to, no side effects. all is good.
now should I take the PCT meds for the prescribed 30 and 40 days AFTER my last test pin or just take them for a full 30 and 40 days from when I started. so basically the meds will overlap by a week or two. I'm sure in the long run it doesn't really matter since it's only a week but I'm just curious what everyone has to say.


finally,
this is the first time I've taken anything except creatine and some whey protein. from what I've read on here my doses seem to be on the low/minimum side. wow. i've had a lingering groin/psoas injury for about 2 years....it's gone. my strength gains were ridiculous in just a few weeks. I leaned out, gained 15lbs of muscle and was hitting PRs on weights every week. I can't imagine what a cycle with double the dose would look like. at first I was only going to do ONE cycle. I'm already thinking of when to start my 2nd cycle. this is the best 3-4 months of training I've had in a long time.

thanks guy!
 
Please do alot more research before you consider a second cycle. I'll do it for you this time, but I don't think you realise how risky failing a PCT is...

First up, timing definetly DOES matter. If you start PCT too early you run a good risk of it failing.
You may aswell keep running your clomid and nolva until you should have finished them, 4 weeks affer when you should have started them.

100mg clomid ed for a month? Ouch. A much more appropriate PCT protocol would look like this :
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Each of those numbers represents the mg you should take each day for that week. So 100mg clomid ed for week 1, then 50mg ed for the following 3 weeks etc.
 
You need to start your PCT about a week after when using those types of steroids. They clear your system quicker than others.
 
U should have waited about 5 days after your last test shot to start taking clomid and tamoxifen. Also, I would absolutely not run clomid at 100mg for a month. Max I would say is take 100m the first couple days then bump it down to 50mg for the remaining 28 days or so. U don't need that much clomid it's entirely too much.
 
You need to start your PCT about a week after when using those types of steroids. They clear your system quicker than others.

I plugged his cycle into the pct calculator. I reckons start pct two days after last pin. I have no experience with prop, but that does sound very soon. Although it is a small dose and short ester. What are your thoughts?
 
I plugged his cycle into the pct calculator. I reckons start pct two days after last pin. I have no experience with prop, but that does sound very soon. Although it is a small dose and short ester. What are your thoughts?

Most day 2-3 days after last pin with propionate. Personally I wait 4-5 days.
 
ok here's my background first:

my pct will be:
50mg clomid 2x day for 30 days
30mg tamox 1x day for 40 days (taken concurrently)


my question is this:
going into my last week of test (anavar was done last week) I began taking the PCT meds.1) I know some people take the clomi/tamox during cycle. but I chose not to, no side effects. all is good.
now should I take the PCT meds for the prescribed 30 and 40 days AFTER my last test pin or just take them for a full 30 and 40 days from when I started. so basically the meds will overlap by a week or two. I2) I'm sure in the long run it doesn't really matter since it's only a week but I'm just curious what everyone has to say.

1) whatever people you see who are running clomid and nolva while ON are not people you should be taking advice from,
2) in the long run everything does matter because this is your body your fucking with that your gonna have to live with for the rest of your life.

finally,
this is the first time I've taken anything except creatine and some whey protein. from what I've read on here my doses seem to be on the low/minimum side. wow. i've had a lingering groin/psoas injury for about 2 years....it's gone. my strength gains were ridiculous in just a few weeks. I leaned out, gained 15lbs of muscle and was hitting PRs on weights every week.3) I can't imagine what a cycle with double the dose would look like. at first I was only going to do ONE cycle. I'm already thinking of when to start my 2nd cycle. this is the best 3-4 months of training I've had in a long time.


3) doubling doses DOES NOT equate to double results.. Also if you are already considering another cycle after attempting this first cycle and kinda failing to execute I personally would revaulate the benefits of cycling... it just seems like you have an addictive personality and this could end bad. or worse for you then it may be already
thanks guy!

Most day 2-3 days after last pin with propionate. Personally I wait 4-5 days.

I second that, i wait 4-5 days after propionate and acetate esters to begin PCT

Get blood work and compare it to your pre-cycle baseline to see if you have fully recovered.

Right on the money Megatron, but seeing how poorly this cycle was executed I'd be very shocked if there is a documented pre-cycle baseline :)
 
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Thanks for all replies guys. Way to be informative and somewhat useless. There's 2 or 3 different answers to my question...great.
My info for some guys take clomi/tamox on cycle is from a MEDICAL DOCTOR. and my cycle dosing was given to me by an OLYMPIAN. A professional for 15yrs. So I think I got good advice from knowledgeable people.

Sorry I asked for your input. I won't make that mistake again.

Cheers
 
Thanks for all replies guys. Way to be informative and somewhat useless. There's 2 or 3 different answers to my question...great.
My info for some guys take clomi/tamox on cycle is from a MEDICAL DOCTOR. and my cycle dosing was given to me by an OLYMPIAN. A professional for 15yrs. So I think I got good advice from knowledgeable people.

Sorry I asked for your input. I won't make that mistake again.

Cheers

Kid we told you to take tamoxifen and clomid , all we said was your timing was off ..

But keep listening to your MD and pro and lets see how quick it'll take for you to be back talkin about TRT
 
Thanks for all replies guys. Way to be informative and somewhat useless. There's 2 or 3 different answers to my question...great.
My info for some guys take clomi/tamox on cycle is from a MEDICAL DOCTOR. and my cycle dosing was given to me by an OLYMPIAN. A professional for 15yrs. So I think I got good advice from knowledgeable people.

Sorry I asked for your input. I won't make that mistake again.

Cheers

Rofl. The attitude on you, you dont deserve to have natural test lol. Your MEDICAL DOCTOR friend is a fucking idiot then - your setting youself up to fail. I'm sorry we gave you our input.

Enjoy TRT ;)
 
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