Used Pinnacle for my second cycle.. Currently still on. I was pretty skeptical too because have gotten bunk gear before but after some of the best customer service I have dealt with decided to give them a try. Did bloodwork pre and mid and at mid levels were way above 1500... Have had no PIP whatsoever .. To the point where 2nd week I was a little worried but that was obviously fixed. Recommended to all my friends and they all have tried their dbol, Anavar (var), androl and Winstrol and not one complaint... And trust me they would be on me if so.