Pinnacle Vial Fill Level

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PinnHead

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So I have seen quite a few threads about people with underfilled vials. Well I guess there has been a few people say their Pinnacle vials are underfilled...... This is funny cause other than obvious attacks by competitive labs I'm sure, I have taken the time to take a sample of a Random selection of 3 vials I have of Pinnacle gear!!!!

Following are Pictures and step by step showing how my vials are all filled perfectly and properly they must like me!!!






Now, 1st picture is Three Random vials I have, as you can see side by side they are perfectly level with each other!!!! 2nd picture shows the lid now ripped off of the Tren E!!!! 3rd pic is of an Excel 10ml syringe and the Tren E pulled forward for a total vial draw!!!
4th pic is of the total contents of the Tren E and as you can see it comes out to a hair over 10ml and there is about 3 or 4 drops left in the vial!!!

I don't know but compared to my shitty ass experiences with Pharm grade crap and the cost of it and the LOW POTENCY (IMO) compared to my source!!!!

I'm happy!!!
 
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I think what happens is, you lose a little with each injection and once you get to the 10th cc, it's not full.
 
As expensive that pinnacle is i would probably raise hell too. Besides do you think the guys claiming underfilled vials are collectively lying?
 
timbo357 said:
As expensive that pinnacle is i would probably raise hell too. Besides do you think the guys claiming underfilled vials are collectively lying?
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I don't necessarily think people are lying so much as they are mis measuring or not taking into account the LOSS you endure when you lose some on each pin and shitty measuring equipment!!! Because as you can see, I have supplied pictures, and they are all filled to the same level as ANY picture I have seen taken and posted by ANYONE and when I pull a whole vial out and PICTURE it, the picture doesn't LIE!!!! So all I'm saying is MY GEAR from Pinnacle says that someone is either not measuring correctly or Pinnacle likes picking on certain people!!! LOL And I doubt that!!!


Expensive? Seeing as I have NEVER seen pharm grade gear at ANY pharmacy I have ever purchased from with prices as cheap as Pinnacle so...... not sure how that is expensive. Either way, I have used just about every avenue of gear that has been on This forum and at least 10 other forums and pharm grade and I am the happiest I have ever been right where I am at!!!!
 
PinnHead said:
I don't necessarily think people are lying so much as they are mis measuring or not taking into account the LOSS you endure when you lose some on each pin and shitty measuring equipment!!! Because as you can see, I have supplied pictures, and they are all filled to the same level as ANY picture I have seen taken and posted by ANYONE and when I pull a whole vial out and PICTURE it, the picture doesn't LIE!!!! So all I'm saying is MY GEAR from Pinnacle says that someone is either not measuring correctly or Pinnacle likes picking on certain people!!! LOL And I doubt that!!!


Expensive? Seeing as I have NEVER seen pharm grade gear at ANY pharmacy I have ever purchased from with prices as cheap as Pinnacle so...... not sure how that is expensive. Either way, I have used just about every avenue of gear that has been on This forum and at least 10 other forums and pharm grade and I am the happiest I have ever been right where I am at!!!!
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I should have said this to begin with, i just want to say nor do i believe pinnacle would be shorting vials purposely as they seem to be thriving right now, so yes you could be right could be from losing a little oil with each injection or something or it could possibly be measuring inconsistencies with pinnacle.

Yes pinnalce is an expensive "UGL" nearly double what others pay. Are you saying pinnacle is pharm grade?
 
I have never seen a long ester that cheap. I have seen prop down there before but on a mg / mg basis that is really cheap. I know that each pin there is loss as I have done some research on it. You will get on average about 9.6cc's/per bottle. That last injection is about 40% short due to loss in the needle and over drawing. Mind you this was over an entire cycle I tracked this totaling over 16 bottles. All I did was write the 10th injection amount down and did some averaging over the life of cycle.

If a bottle has 10cc's you will get to use about 9.6 cc's. I would be interested in other people's thoughts.

Keep in mind there are other factors such as injection and drawing proticol.
 
Truushot said:
If a bottle has 10cc's you will get to use about 9.6 cc's. I would be interested in other people's thoughts.
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If your only injecting 1cc at a time? That number would change however if your pulling back 2 or 3 cc at a time no?
 
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PinnHead said:
I don't necessarily think people are lying so much as they are mis measuring or not taking into account the LOSS you endure when you lose some on each pin and shitty measuring equipment!!! Because as you can see, I have supplied pictures, and they are all filled to the same level as ANY picture I have seen taken and posted by ANYONE and when I pull a whole vial out and PICTURE it, the picture doesn't LIE!!!! So all I'm saying is MY GEAR from Pinnacle says that someone is either not measuring correctly or Pinnacle likes picking on certain people!!! LOL And I doubt that!!!


Expensive? Seeing as I have NEVER seen pharm gradegear at ANY pharmacy I have ever purchased from with prices as cheap as Pinnacle so...... not sure how that is expensive. Either way, I have used just about every avenue of gear that has been on This forum and at least 10 other forums and pharm grade and I am the happiest I have ever been right where I am at!!!!
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I thought mine could have been a tad short but it could of been I didn't take in consideration what I wasted. But if it was short it wasn't a considerable amount. In the end I and happy with everything from customer service, shipping, to the results.
 
ThaDude007 said:
I thought mine could have been a tad short but it could of been I didn't take in consideration what I wasted. But if it was short it wasn't a considerable amount. In the end I and happy with everything from customer service, shipping, to the results.
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I just know there has been alot of BS on Pinn because of HATERS and I keep hearing all this shit, UNDERDOSED? That is the most funny shit I have ever heard because YES!!!! I in fact think Pinnacle gear is BETTER than Pharm!!! I don't think it IS pharm but I would chose it over the Sandoz cyp I have used even if it costed the EXACT same as pharmacy!!!!! It is by far much more ACCURATELY dosed than any pharm I've ever had!!!
So when I start hearing stuff I decided fuck that I don't want to be getting ripped off 2 cc per bottle which is what the claim has been, like vials with 8cc in them!!! 8 CC is almost HALF of what those KIMBLE TALL vials will hold, they hold 15ml!!!! LOOK at the level on your unopened vials....... Does it look like even close to HALF full or more like 2/3 full???? WELL there you have it, there isn't even any point in even using a syringe to measure it!!!! What is half of 15? 7.5 So 8 and 7.5 look the same in the vial to me and it looks like the vial is freaking HALF way filled at 8 ml full!!! So how is a pic of a bottle from a bro at 2/3 full and words out of mouth saying 8ml???? Me and you and everyone whom is reading this and has a vial themselves to take the stopper out and see for themselves that the vial holds about 15 ml. So for it to be 8 ml it needs to be close to the half mark!!!

NONE OF ANY BROS "UNOPENED" VIALS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED IN PICS HAVE SHOWN REMOTELY CLOSE TO HALF ON THE LEVEL!!!

Anyway, yes fellas, I agree as well with most of you that the shit couldn't be underfilled by any substantial amount and I am happy with the results cause at the dosages I'm taking which is the EXACT same dosage as the sandoz shit was and I feel DOUBLE the results IMO but hey I'm no scientist and really man, it could be alot in my head but the fucking scale says shitload more than it did when on same dosage weekly of sandoz and sex drive etc!!!! Sorry but my hat is off to pinnacle.

Can't wait for these new tabs! I hear they are kicking off the tab sales with the Clen tabs and adding that as a new product. If all goes well with those it is suppose to start moving to tabs. Same STRONG ass Mao product as before but now where people can split dosage more effectively!!!
 
PinnHead said:
I just know there has been alot of BS on Pinn because of HATERS and I keep hearing all this shit, UNDERDOSED? That is the most funny shit I have ever heard because YES!!!! I in fact think Pinnacle gear is BETTER than Pharm!!! I don't think it IS pharm but I would chose it over the Sandoz cyp I have used even if it costed the EXACT same as pharmacy!!!!! It is by far much more ACCURATELY dosed than any pharm I've ever had!!!
So when I start hearing stuff I decided fuck that I don't want to be getting ripped off 2 cc per bottle which is what the claim has been, like vials with 8cc in them!!! 8 CC is almost HALF of what those KIMBLE TALL vials will hold, they hold 15ml!!!! LOOK at the level on your unopened vials....... Does it look like even close to HALF full or more like 2/3 full???? WELL there you have it, there isn't even any point in even using a syringe to measure it!!!! What is half of 15? 7.5 So 8 and 7.5 look the same in the vial to me and it looks like the vial is freaking HALF way filled at 8 ml full!!! So how is a pic of a bottle from a bro at 2/3 full and words out of mouth saying 8ml???? Me and you and everyone whom is reading this and has a vial themselves to take the stopper out and see for themselves that the vial holds about 15 ml. So for it to be 8 ml it needs to be close to the half mark!!!
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Close bro if the kimble 10ml talks hold 14mls but that is completely full to the brim.
 
I have had gear that has been filled to different levels before from some labs I will never use again. I'm talking some damn near only half full. So checking for consistency in fill level between vials is something I do on every order.
I have never seen Pinn product filled to any visible variance. I have never pulled it out just to measure, but I know I get almost a full 10 x1ml pins per vial. I chalk the last one up to inconsistent drawing.
 
PinnHead said:
I just know there has been alot of BS on Pinn because of HATERS and I keep hearing all this shit, UNDERDOSED? That is the most funny shit I have ever heard because YES!!!! I in fact think Pinnacle gear is BETTER than Pharm!!! I don't think it IS pharm but I would chose it over the Sandoz cyp I have used even if it costed the EXACT same as pharmacy!!!!! It is by far much more ACCURATELY dosed than any pharm I've ever had!!!
So when I start hearing stuff I decided fuck that I don't want to be getting ripped off 2 cc per bottle which is what the claim has been, like vials with 8cc in them!!! 8 CC is almost HALF of what those KIMBLE TALL vials will hold, they hold 15ml!!!! LOOK at the level on your unopened vials....... Does it look like even close to HALF full or more like 2/3 full???? WELL there you have it, there isn't even any point in even using a syringe to measure it!!!! What is half of 15? 7.5 So 8 and 7.5 look the same in the vial to me and it looks like the vial is freaking HALF way filled at 8 ml full!!! So how is a pic of a bottle from a bro at 2/3 full and words out of mouth saying 8ml???? Me and you and everyone whom is reading this and has a vial themselves to take the stopper out and see for themselves that the vial holds about 15 ml. So for it to be 8 ml it needs to be close to the half mark!!!

NONE OF ANY BROS "UNOPENED" VIALS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED IN PICS HAVE SHOWN REMOTELY CLOSE TO HALF ON THE LEVEL!!
Anyway, yes fellas, I agree as well with most of you that the shit couldn't be underfilled by any substantial amount and I am happy with the results cause at the dosages I'm taking which is the EXACT same dosage as the sandoz shit was and I feel DOUBLE the results IMO but hey I'm no scientist and really man, it could be alot in my head but the fucking scale says shitload more than it did when on same dosage weekly of sandoz and sex drive etc!!!! Sorry but my hat is off to pinnacle.

Can't wait for these new tabs! I hear they are kicking off the tab sales with the Clen tabs and adding that as a new product. If all goes well with those it is suppose to start moving to tabs. Same STRONG ass Mao product as before but now where people can split dosage more effectively!!!
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Sweet, keep us posted. I will be stocking up during the sale. I'm stoked about the new products as well. When will this be coming into affect?
 
PinnHead said:
So I have seen quite a few threads about people with underfilled vials. Well I guess there has been a few people say their Pinnacle vials are underfilled...... This is funny cause other than obvious attacks by competitive labs I'm sure, I have taken the time to take a sample of a Random selection of 3 vials I have of Pinnacle gear!!!!

Following are Pictures and step by step showing how my vials are all filled perfectly and properly they must like me!!!






Now, 1st picture is Three Random vials I have, as you can see side by side they are perfectly level with each other!!!! 2nd picture shows the lid now ripped off of the Tren E!!!! 3rd pic is of an Excel 10ml syringe and the Tren E pulled forward for a total vial draw!!!
4th pic is of the total contents of the Tren E and as you can see it comes out to a hair over 10ml and there is about 3 or 4 drops left in the vial!!!

I don't know but compared to my shitty ass experiences with Pharm grade crap and the cost of it and the LOW POTENCY (IMO) compared to my source!!!!

I'm happy!!!
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Solid post. All my vials look like yours. No complaints, other than I'm ready for another sale.
 
From my experience - you'll always have people think a lab is under filling or under dosing.

If the lab is credible - this will "almost" always be nothing more than ... "an assumption."

The exception is usually (very rare and) - the mistake of someone working for the lab - or
someone who has screwed the lab for their own self interest and benefit.

I haven't tried Pinnacle yet - but if I were going to - I would not question the products
based on everything I've heard.

It's just my assumption - but I would not worry about their products.
 
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