Please critique my mass building cycle

jmaresca

jmaresca

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What's up everyone! I am posting my cycle to see what you guys think about it. Please let me know if I need to make any adjustments. I am coming back after a 14 month layoff. I have 6 years of cycling experience under my belt (2003 - 2007, 2012) so this isn't my first cycle. So with that said, with my usage experience and goals to build mass how does this cycle look to you:


Cycle:
10 weeks
Tren acetate (100 ml 3x's per week)
Test Prop (100 ml 3x's per week)
Masteron (100 ml 3x's per week)
Anavar (10mg 5 x's Ed)
Arimidex .5 mg Ed (first 60 days)

PCT: (start on day 61 of the 70 day cycle and continue to run PCT for 4 weeks - day 61 is when I run out of the arimidex too)
HCG: 250ui every 2 days (4 weeks)
Clomid:
Week 1: 100mg Ed
Week 2: 50mg Ed
Week 3: 50mg Ed
Week 4: 50 mg Ed
Nolvadex:
Week 1: 40mg Ed
Week 2: 20 mg Ed
Week 3: 20 mg Ed
Week 4: 20 mg Ed

Please let me know what you think. Also, do you think I should be adding in some proviron to the mix? Should I be running longer than 10 weeks with the shorter esters? I was also thinking of running an ECA stack during my PCT to shed any water gained and to minimize any rebounding fat gains (normally I would run a Clen/Cytomel) cycle instead of ECA but I found out that I am allergic to T3 (typically if I run an ECA stack for longer than 2 months I will switch it up with Clen every 2 weeks but this is beyond the scope of my questions).

Thanks guys!
 
Shouldn't run an oral your whole cycle so throw the Anavar in the last 6 weeks of the cycle...HCG should be used during the cycle or in between the cycle and pct...not during pct
Don't start your pct during your cycle...it should be started some time after your last Pin...when depends on the esters used. And your second week of Nolva should be 40mg as well. And I would up your second week of Clomid to 75 mg also.
 
I also wouldn't worry about the clen...you probably won't put too much water weight on with tren mast and var...
I would say just run tren and test this cycle then next cycle do a mast, var, and test cycle
 
frank.tb said:
Shouldn't run an oral your whole cycle so throw the Anavar in the last 6 weeks of the cycle...HCG should be used during the cycle or in between the cycle and post cycle therapy (pct)...not during post cycle therapy (pct)
Don't start your post cycle therapy (pct) during your cycle...it should be started some time after your last Pin...when depends on the esters used. And your second week of Nolva should be 40mg as well. And I would up your second week of Clomid to 75 mg also.
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I see your point here. I wasn't pyramiding down properly. My week 2s for the nolvadex/clomid should be upped. And I see your point about starting post cycle therapy (pct) after last pin. I put in like that because I run out of arimidex 10 days too early and thought it would be a good time to start the post cycle therapy (pct) as a substitute but starting post cycle therapy (pct) after is certainly the right move.
 
Yes I should be a little more patient and split this up into 2. I think the reason for adding them all together was because I have run tren/test only together and I didn't respond as well as I would have liked but than again my doses where low and the cycle want long enough. My entire program (workout, diet, gear) consists of a 9 month plan so breaking this up into 2 cycles would make more sense. I think I should just increase the dosages of the tren/test.

Do you think running proviron and arimidex at the same time will be counterproductive? I was hoping to get a little harder and more dense and keep my sex drive with the proviron but I am not sure if running pro while running arimidex is a bad move.
 
Also do you ever worry about sides from hcg? Are there any that you know of? I keep thinking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will cause me to hold water. Am I wrong? (I really hope I am wrong). I dread water weight. I have used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for post cycle therapy (pct) once and I didn't run it for as long as needed so I don't know what to expect from it. Just know that it is a very good idea to use it. Thanks.
 
I wouldn't run the ECA during post cycle therapy (pct), like frank stated you won't be holding much water. Your post cycle therapy (pct) needs to be focused on keeping your gains and ephedrine is an appetite suppressant. You need to be eating like a mad man to feed those new muscles.
 
jmaresca said:
Yes I should be a little more patient and split this up into 2. I think the reason for adding them all together was because I have run tren/test only together and I didn't respond as well as I would have liked but than again my doses where low and the cycle want long enough. My entire program (workout, diet, gear) consists of a 9 month plan so breaking this up into 2 cycles would make more sense. I think I should just increase the dosages of the tren/test.

Do you think running proviron and arimidex at the same time will be counterproductive? I was hoping to get a little harder and more dense and keep my sex drive with the proviron but I am not sure if running pro while running arimiex is a bad move.
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Not too sure brother...if you ran the test higher then I don't think you would have to worry about your sex drive...
A lot of people run the test higher than the tren if you are not new to it.
Here's what I was thinkin...

12 wee
Tren 300mg per week
Test 500mg per week
Adex .50 eod...if sides appear up the dosage a tad...be sure to get blood work during your cycle so you know where you stand...take your last dose the.day before you start post cycle therapy (pct)

Either run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your cycle or blast it the last 10 days leading up to post cycle therapy (pct), but not during post cycle therapy (pct).

Pct should start 5 to 7 days after last pin.
Clomid 100/75/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Just my opinion brother...wait around for more suggestions from experienced members.

Check out the stickys about post cycle therapy (pct) protocol and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) usage and you will find the info regarding proper use.
Side.effects of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can't be worse then tren sides so I wouldn't worry lol
 
Btw I msged a friend on here and directed him to your thread...so sometime today he might leave some advice for you. He's more experienced then I am with what you are asking.
Best of luck brother
 
frank.tb said:
Btw I msged a friend on here and directed him to your thread...so sometime today he might leave some advice for you. He's more experienced then I am with what you are asking.
Best of luck brother
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Thank you bro. You have been very helpful. I really do appreciate it.
 
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