Post AAS Problems? (Years Later)
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riprockwell
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Here is my take on it. I seem to think that this is a flip of a coin. Could some cycles cause problems down the road. Yes they could but so could a host of other things. I have seen friends on prescription pills with tanked out test levels or friends who smoke too much weed, drink too much, eat too shitty, etc. There are just so many contributing factors in my eyes. In my scenario, I cycled for around 5 years and recovered fine and this was with constant blood work so I know I was fine. Then one day I got on a motorcycle and crashed it and hit my head hard and from that trauma caused pituitary issues and tanked all my hormones including my thyroid, test, cortisol, etc. Up until that point I was fine. I have met guys who have cycled for years and have recovered and my buddy who ran one cycle and never was able to get his test up to a reasonable level. Flip a coin brother. That's how I see it. And to comment on the addictive part about it. We are addicted to the results and the feeling we have on the compounds. I feel like a god on Tren. Its a hard feeling to explain but its awesome. So yes its hard to do a couple of cycles and then quit.
bigben66
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Can I ask what testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) you are on now Austinite? I know there's probably 100's of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forums on here - but I'm engrossed in this thread - I'm 42, I've ran about 4 or 5 Test based cycles over the last few years, I was naive with my post cycle therapy (pct) on my first couple of cycles and had quite bad shutdown on my last Test/Deca cycle.
I'm pretty sure I'm heading for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at some stage in the coming years - I'm intrigued what is working for you (in the getting wood department!)
Great reading guys
Austinite
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100mg of cyp. I do 50mg twice weekly SubQ. 250iu hCG twice weekly and .25mg anastrozole twice weekly. This does nothing for erections. I use cialis for that and oxytocin for ejaculation. My case is pretty bad and uncommon.Can I ask what testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) you are on now Austinite? I know there's probably 100's of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) forums on here - but I'm engrossed in this thread - I'm 42, I've ran about 4 or 5 Test based cycles over the last few years, I was naive with my post cycle therapy (pct) on my first couple of cycles and had quite bad shutdown on my last Test/Deca cycle.
I'm pretty sure I'm heading for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at some stage in the coming years - I'm intrigued what is working for you (in the getting wood department!)
Great reading guys
riprockwell
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I am on pretty much the same protocol except I am on Aromasin. I found that Adex really jacks up my liver values. One of the side effects is inflammation and swelling of the liver. Once I switched to Aromasin, my liver values dropped back down in to a healthy range. I am on 25mg EOD of Aromasin but I am estro sensitive. Most guys are doing 12.5mg EOD and are fine. Just wanted to share that.
Austinite
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Nac can resolve any liver issues for me. I like adex because it doesn't need time to get serum levels up like aromasin. It's instant. Sometimes I like to come off my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for a couple weeks and when I get back on it works immediately. But if you're consistent, Aromasin works great.
riprockwell
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Its funny, I just may be sensitive to Adex. Even with some Liv-52, it was on the higher side of the range but it was brought in range. I just like how I feel overall on Aromasin. I actually have never run NAC before so I ordered some NAC and ALA and I am going to run them to see how I feel. Supposed to be amazing stuff.
diesel_3
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I'll keep all my noob questions to this thread.
Another thing...About a year ago, I hit the 100LBs lost mark, I am no stranger to cutting, weighing food, calculating calories, etc.
Before when I was brand new a number of years ago, I had asked on BB.com if it was possible to lose fat/gain muscle, I found out you pick on or the other 'Unless you are on steroids' So now that I am contemplating running my first cycle, I would still want to cut as I am around 18% BF (6'0 200LBs) my calorie maintenance is about 2,600 cals, I consume 2,200 calories currently in my natural cut. Would I just keep doing the same while running test and I would actually be able to gain a small amount of muscle mass? Would it even be noticeable? or should I just eat closer to maintenance to cut down on BF% while still making small gains?
Another thing...About a year ago, I hit the 100LBs lost mark, I am no stranger to cutting, weighing food, calculating calories, etc.
Before when I was brand new a number of years ago, I had asked on BB.com if it was possible to lose fat/gain muscle, I found out you pick on or the other 'Unless you are on steroids' So now that I am contemplating running my first cycle, I would still want to cut as I am around 18% BF (6'0 200LBs) my calorie maintenance is about 2,600 cals, I consume 2,200 calories currently in my natural cut. Would I just keep doing the same while running test and I would actually be able to gain a small amount of muscle mass? Would it even be noticeable? or should I just eat closer to maintenance to cut down on BF% while still making small gains?
bigben66
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Again, I'm being naive here... are you prescribed that by your endo? At my current stage I have only been to see my basic standard doctor... he initially put me on Testogel sachets (crock of shite!) but I guess it's standard protocol for them to follow...
I'm running a Test/Eq cycle now and I'm HCG'ing throughout the cycle, I'll do a thorough blast at the end and then run a standard post cycle therapy (pct) - if this doesn't work - he is referring me to a specialist (they're called a Urologist here in the UK)
My doctor said he isn't allowed to prescribe testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for long term patients but the Urologist is... so I'm basically asking these questions to find out what path lies ahead for me - IF - I don't recover as I'd like...
Sorry for being nosey guys - but if you don't ask - you stay dumb!
Austinite
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Yes, I went through several endo's until I found one I was happy with. I don't recommend anyone self-treat low T unless you have an incredible vast knowledge base. Believe it or not, most Low T cases can be solved without Testosterone. Doctors today are often uneducated and not up to date on current treatments. THe idea is not to inject testosterone right away, but to find the root cause, which could be thyroid related, pituitary, etc... Not many doctors understand the importance of hCG, pregnenolone, DHEA and Vitamin D, and how they ALL play a role.
We have Urologists here, too
Slight variance from Endocrinologists. Both exist in your country, too. My protocol was modified many times until I was happy with my levels. I was actually running higher volume and my T was in the very upper range, but E2 was a little tougher to manage. So we knocked it down to this and I can virtually go weeks without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if I wanted to. Especially after switching from IM to subQ as it absorbs slower and has less impact on E2.
bigben66
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Thanks for that Austinite...
I appreciate your openness... I guess I've got a long route ahead of me...
Good health!
I appreciate your openness... I guess I've got a long route ahead of me...
Good health!
Yes, I went through several endo's until I found one I was happy with. I don't recommend anyone self-treat low T unless you have an incredible vast knowledge base. Believe it or not, most Low T cases can be solved without Testosterone. Doctors today are often uneducated and not up to date on current treatments. THe idea is not to inject testosterone right away, but to find the root cause, which could be thyroid related, pituitary, etc... Not many doctors understand the importance of hCG, pregnenolone, DHEA and Vitamin D, and how they ALL play a role.
We have Urologists here, too
My protocol was modified many times until I was happy with my levels. I was actually running higher volume and my T was in the very upper range, but E2 was a little tougher to manage. So we knocked it down to this and I can virtually go weeks without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if I wanted to. Especially after switching from IM to subQ as it absorbs slower and has less impact on E2.
ForeverAesthetic
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I'm sorry to hear that. But that's a rather broad statement. Be honest, were you cycling often and at large doses? I'm doing my first cycle soon and I'm in my early twenties, and I see test as the only AAS I'll ever use. People say you never just use this or never just do one cycle but that's ridiculous. I'm just using AAS to get to the size I want, and then just maintaining naturally from there.
so is it safe to say the majority of people that are on steroids, weather its just test or complex compounds, will end up on trt?? and if so is this necessarily a bad thing? I mean if one is willing to do a cycle and have steroids a part of their lifestyle does testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) really make that much of a difference?
Austinite
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I try not to be repetitive in the same thread. Please read the thread in its entirety as this "broad statement" was already answered in detail. Skimming and picking random posts to quote always leaves questions unanswered.
ForeverAesthetic
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No offence but instead of trying to be a forum hero or saint, why don't you just answer my question?
Austinite
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lol, really? you refuse to read? Your question was already answered. Find it yourself.
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