Post cycle therapy (pct) Help???

[BigDrew89]

PCT Help???

I just finished my 12 week cycle of test E. 750mg/week. Would it be ok to just use clomid as my post cycle therapy (pct)? If so what dose should I run? If not what would be a better alternative for post cycle therapy (pct)? Please help

 

[scotimusprime]

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[rubicon09]

wait two weeks after last injection and start clomid for 4 weeks at 50mg. if you used aromasin through out your cycle you can run it all the way through pct.

 

[RJ]

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[MagicMan09]

I just finished my 12 week cycle of test E. 750mg/week. Would it be ok to just use clomid as my PCT? If so what dose should I run? If not what would be a better alternative for PCT? Please help

Dont take this the wrong way dude, but if you started a 12 week cycle of test e @ 750mg/week without doing any research into pct then your an idiot.

With all dude respect 12 weeks @ 750mg/week is a fair bit of gear, and considering you think it will be ok to just use clomid for your pct i'd say you have no business using that amount.

With that amount of gear your test production will be suppressed to the point where you will need to run a pct cycle of at least 6 weeks. This should consist of Nolvadex, clomid & hcg.

Do some more research into your pct and i'll be happy to help you in anyway i can.

PM me if you have any questions.

 

[MagicMan09]

wait two weeks after last injection and start clomid for 4 weeks at 50mg. if you used aromasin through out your cycle you can run it all the way through pct.

Introducing your pct 2 weeks after your last injection will do you no good. At this point steroid levels within the body are still highly elevated. You should wait around 3-4 weeks especially if your on 750mg/week (to account for compound build up) untill the majoraty of steriod has dimminished and your approaching basline.

 

[RJ]

Dont take this the wrong way dude, but if you started a 12 week cycle of test e @ 750mg/week without doing any research into post cycle therapy (pct) then your an idiot.

With all dude respect 12 weeks @ 750mg/week is a fair bit of gear, and considering you think it will be ok to just use clomid for your post cycle therapy (pct) i'd say you have no business using that amount.

With that amount of gear your test production will be suppressed to the point where you will need to run a post cycle therapy (pct) cycle of at least 6 weeks. This should consist of Nolvadex, clomid & hcg.

Do some more research into your post cycle therapy (pct) and i'll be happy to help you in anyway i can.

PM me if you have any questions.

although I agree that he didn't do nearly enough searching around, but calling him an idiot cause he asked about Clomid is a bit much, and saying he will definitely NEED all those things to recover properly is bullshit. I, and plenty of guys I trained with in the past have used Clomid only for our post cycle therapy (pct) using a helluva lot more gear than that 1g+/week.

I'm the first to call someone out on something around here, but there is no way you know what will or won't work for this guys... simply because what works for you may not work for him, or anyone else for that matter.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

^^^^^ yup i ran test only @ 750 and recovered just fine with clomid only @ 50mg. Im not saying using all things isnt best, but for that cycle clomid should be sufficient.

 

[MagicMan09]

although I agree that he didn't do nearly enough searching around, but calling him an idiot cause he asked about Clomid is a bit much, and saying he will definitely NEED all those things to recover properly is bullshit. I, and plenty of guys I trained with in the past have used Clomid only for our post cycle therapy (pct) using a helluva lot more gear than that 1g+/week.

I'm the first to call someone out on something around here, but there is no way you know what will or won't work for this guys... simply because what works for you may not work for him, or anyone else for that matter.

Your obviously miss informed awell.

It is important to understand that anti-estrogens alone are inadequate to restore normal endogenous testosterone production after a cycle. These agents ordinarily increase LH levels by blocking the negative feedback of estrogens. But LH rebounds quickly on its own post cycle without help. Plus, LH levels are not what the problem is.

Hcg should be the pivotal post cycle drug with anti-estrogens playing more of a supported role.

Anti estrogens alone with not reverse testicular atrophy

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Your obviously miss informed awell.

It is important to understand that anti-estrogens alone are inadequate to restore normal endogenous testosterone production after a cycle. These agents ordinarily increase LH levels by blocking the negative feedback of estrogens. But LH rebounds quickly on its own post cycle without help. Plus, LH levels are not what the problem is.

Hcg should be the pivotal post cycle drug with anti-estrogens playing more of a supported role.

Anti estrogens alone with not reverse testicular atrophy

 

[RJ]

Your obviously miss informed awell.

It is important to understand that anti-estrogens alone are inadequate to restore normal endogenous testosterone production after a cycle. These agents ordinarily increase LH levels by blocking the negative feedback of estrogens. But LH rebounds quickly on its own post cycle without help. Plus, LH levels are not what the problem is.

Hcg should be the pivotal post cycle drug with anti-estrogens playing more of a supported role.

Anti estrogens alone with not reverse testicular atrophy

so you're sayijng I'm wrong cause you can spout off some copied shit from somewhere? I don't do that. I speak from personal experience.

As for being misinformed... I'm afraid thats you. As anyone who is informed CORRECTLY knows that HCG is suppressive to the HPTA, so using it during post cycle therapy (pct) is counter-productive. It is HCG that plays a supporting role if any. During a cycle and UP TO post cycle therapy (pct) is fine, and actually does a great job at preparing the boys to start producing natural test, but it is the SERM that actually gets that going. Using HCG with SERMs is stupid.

So I think its time for some personal experience and more research as obviously you haven't done enough of either.

 

[RJ]

Your obviously miss informed awell.

It is important to understand that anti-estrogens alone are inadequate to restore normal endogenous testosterone production after a cycle. These agents ordinarily increase LH levels by blocking the negative feedback of estrogens. But LH rebounds quickly on its own post cycle without help. Plus, LH levels are not what the problem is.

Hcg should be the pivotal post cycle drug with anti-estrogens playing more of a supported role.

Anti estrogens alone with not reverse testicular atrophy

by the way, misinformed is one word... not a unmarried woman.

 

[BigDrew89]

so should i use hcg or not?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

it will help you recover faster. your choice.

 

[RJ]

so should i use hcg or not?

as long as you don't run it WITH the Clomid.

 

[smiley02]

wait two weeks after last injection and start clomid for 4 weeks at 50mg

 

[Larrybird]

You know, while we're on the subject. I was told that running either Clomid or Nolvadex would be sufficient. People said that clomid specifically targets breast tissue.

Is this still true? You do not have to run both, correct? I didn't experience any bitch tit while on cycle, but am curious to know if I'm fine with running Nolva @ 40/40/20/20 (500mg/week cycle @ 12 weeks).

 

[RJ]

You know, while we're on the subject. I was told that running either Clomid or Nolvadex would be sufficient. People said that clomid specifically targets breast tissue.

Is this still true? You do not have to run both, correct? I didn't experience any bitch tit while on cycle, but am curious to know if I'm fine with running Nolva @ 40/40/20/20 (500mg/week cycle @ 12 weeks).

You're correct. Running either alone or together is fine. One method may work better so its up to you (like all things) to find what works best.

For me, Nolva was shit for post cycle therapy (pct). Clomid worked great. Others are the opposite.

Again, for me at least, I like to take the least things as possible to get the job done.

 

[MagicMan09]

Hahahah. funny people. come off gear altogether, forever, and do the pct these guys say and watch what happens!

 

[Repo]

Hahahah. funny people. come off gear altogether, forever, and do the pct these guys say and watch what happens!

Oh man - The guys you are challenging here KNOW their shit ... They will rip you to shreds on this subject!

Do more research on this sublect and better yet - research more of their impute on this subject and you will see there are way to many variations on this topic to be challenging them on this post.

I'm only trying to help you out here...