preping first cycle and pct... need info and advice

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chrisperanio

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week 1-4 d-bol 40mg ed
week 1-12 masteron 100 mg eod
week 1-12 test propionate 100 mg eod
week 1-12 arimason 25mg e3d or as needed
week 9-12 anavar 40mg ed

as far as a post cycle therapy (pct) im still doing research but i have looked into using arimason, igf-1, pregnyl Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), clomid, nolvadex and some other's but like i said this is my first cycle and i am a beginner so if anyone has info or ideas for my cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) please let me know. I'm new to this and other then this forum i have no one else to turn to so hit me up....
 
you're going to hear a lot of "you should be running test only if this is your first cycle". you don't know how your body is going to react to sides, gotta ease into this. slow and steady, start with a mild test only cycle. whats your stats? (age, height, weight, bf%, sex, training history etc.
 
I dont have an issue with a guy that wants to use dbol on his first cycle. Its perfectly fine....anavar is even easier lol
 
OX said:
I dont have an issue with a guy that wants to use dbol on his first cycle.
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You may not have an issue with it but more people then not that are actually way smarter on this topic then you or I would suggest TEST ONLY first run, you have to identify how your body reacts to sides and build up. besides that the higher the does on your first cycle, the higher the dose the second has to be, and third and so on. with proper diet you should be able to get some fantastic gains on your first cycle with test only and you will learn alot about your body and how it reacts to the added hormones. but im a noob myself what do i know. :)
 
that being said op i would definitely recommend test only for your first cycle, i know that my research has taught me that is what's best and whn i run my first cycle it will for sure be test only
 
TraPump said:
You may not have an issue with it but more people then not that are actually way smarter on this topic then you or I would suggest TEST ONLY first run, you have to identify how your body reacts to sides and build up. besides that the higher the does on your first cycle, the higher the dose the second has to be, and third and so on. with proper diet you should be able to get some fantastic gains on your first cycle with test only and you will learn alot about your body and how it reacts to the added hormones. but im a noob myself what do i know. :)
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I dont just say things to say them. I have reasons and experience. Dbol will be out of your system before any sides from test will occur, therefore it is perfectly fine running dbol with your first cycle.

as far as your comment goes about others being smarter....there is always someone out there that is smarter then the next but this is common sense
 
Not to be rude but there are a lot of guys here that cannot get past the parrotted information that is given out here like candy. It's about experience and common sense. Yes the first cycle should be test only but now ask yourself or anyone else, when is the earliest you have noticed sides from test? For me and most of the guys I've talked to, the earliest is five to six weeks (dosage dependant). Dbol has a half life of about 6 hours. Putting two and two together would equal dbol for four weeks is fine because it will be out of your system before you have any sides from test. And from my experience test sides are very mild. Just because the mass of guys here read "test only" from other guys doesn't mean that it is set in stone or is the word of god. This game is all about using your knowledge and experience....not about reading a bunch of guys saying the same things. Progress your education.

Sorry for the rant but ignorance annoys me.

Love you all :)
 
stats

6'1" 26 years old 18% bf about 225getting pounds use to work out all the time being prior military been slacking the last few years trying to step my game back up and of course get back in shape. Goals turn everything into muscle body fat about 8%
 
Ok thanks for the info
i think ill go with the d-bol as a kick starter for about 4 weeks a 25mg, along with 100mg of test and arimason as needed prolly about 25mg e3d for about 12 weeks then ill roll into pct and use arimason 25mg for 6 weeks clomid and prenyl Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) to wrap things up
 
It's not about the fact that you won't experience the dbol sides at the same time as the test sides. Its about introducing your body to ONE NEW COMPOUND at a time and also to TEST and experiment how your body will react to these new compounds by starting off with a single mild compound like test only. Especially for a first timer that has no idea how they're going to react to sides and like you said the sides from test alone seem to be a lot milder FOR MOST GUYS. That is why I recommend test only cycles and that is why 90% of this communities veterans and moderators would recommend the same so don't come on here telling me I'm ignorant and just repeating what I've heard. I'm passing on good information to chris that more often then not the vets of this lifestyle would agree with.
 
Your not allowed to ask for sources, so shhhhhh dont ask. Wait till you get to 50 posts and Private Message me, or someone else that you feel would know.

I just started my first Cycle Test E ONLY!! haha... BTW if your running Aromasin it should be an everyday dosage of 12.5mg, or more, or less depending on what happens with your body.

NO ASKING FOR SOURCES!!!!
 
hockey is right. no source checks or asking of sources. this is to help you with cycling correctly. not help acquire illegal substances.

ANd also, like he said 12.5mg of aromasin ed is best, it has a short half live and doesnt kill estrogen off so it helps taking ed.
 
TraPump said:
It's not about the fact that you won't experience the dbol sides at the same time as the test sides. Its about introducing your body to ONE NEW COMPOUND at a time and also to TEST and experiment how your body will react to these new compounds by starting off with a single mild compound like test only. Especially for a first timer that has no idea how they're going to react to sides and like you said the sides from test alone seem to be a lot milder FOR MOST GUYS. That is why I recommend test only cycles and that is why 90% of this communities veterans and moderators would recommend the same so don't come on here telling me I'm ignorant and just repeating what I've heard. I'm passing on good information to chris that more often then not the vets of this lifestyle would agree with.
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You can't get past the parroted info. There is absolutely nothing wrong with introducing 2 things at once. He will be able to experience them both seperately...in essence the dbol will hit first and test usually isn't noticable until week 4 - 6. I'm not saying test only isn't good advice.....I'm saying that using dbol on your first cycle is fine. You are ignorant if you cannot comprehend new information and are stuck on old and repeated stuff. I know alot of veterens here and i bet they would agree with me...not that i need a "vet" to back myself up anyway...my information is solid. Sorry I had to break the truth to you this way haha
 
TraPump said:
It's not about the fact that you won't experience the dbol sides at the same time as the test sides. Its about introducing your body to ONE NEW COMPOUND at a time and also to TEST and experiment how your body will react to these new compounds by starting off with a single mild compound like test only. Especially for a first timer that has no idea how they're going to react to sides and like you said the sides from test alone seem to be a lot milder FOR MOST GUYS. That is why I recommend test only cycles and that is why 90% of this communities veterans and moderators would recommend the same so don't come on here telling me I'm ignorant and just repeating what I've heard. I'm passing on good information to chris that more often then not the vets of this lifestyle would agree with.
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If you still have a hard time believing me and you need a "VET" in order for you to be able to change your logic....I went ahead and searched the forum until I found a "VET" on here who has said the same thing....and it didn't take me but 4 min to find....so here let me do your homework for you....

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/607170-your-first-3-cycles-should.html
 
Ox is right, Dbol on your first cycle is fine. I've seen and heard many more experienced people acknowledge that.

As far as Masteron......sure the leaner you are, the better it will work, but i've also seen it work marvles on people who's BF% was in mid-high teens. It almost enhances the other compunds being stacked with it....BUT, i wouldn't recomend it with the first cycle.

OP, I would stick with the Test and Dbol IMO. First cycle will almost always yeild you th ebest result, so why not do it right. ;)
 
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