prohormones on trt

[bonexyster]

ok bros i ran across a deal i couldnt pass up. met a guy who needed money and sold me a HUGE lot of ph and other stuff for $100. so easy choice i bought it cause it was all still in experation. ill mention the ones im interested in using soon. m14ad, trenazone, stano 200, dzine being i got like tons of ph bottles every where i want to do a long yet safe cycle of a few of these. so i was thinking

m14add 1-6 weeks
dzine 6-12
possibly buying some lmg 12-16
trenazone and stano 16-22

i know m14ad is liver harsh and dzine is extremely light on it but the others are non methyl sooooo...??? what to do ideas? i have tons of other ph from the lot so my choice is endless, this one just seemed the mildest to me.

 

[ScottyB28]

No clue

 

[Rix]

I don't understand this. In general, the drugs prescribed for testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) are well understood and tested for decades. Pro hormones are generally less clean substitutes for real steroids. They have not gone through a rigorous process of testing. Why not go with real legal testosterone?

also, steroids in general are best taken any method other than orally. How can a supplement maker do better than dozens of billion dollar pharma companies?

 

[bonexyster]

ive been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a while and was planning on a deca Winstrol (winny) cycle in the next couple of weeks but i ran into a guy that had dozens of bottles of ph sd clones a little of everything, has to be close to a thousand dollars of supps and the guy need was short a payment to an attorney so i offered him $100. and he took it. i agree that there is no subsitute for fda approved aas very agreed. just didnt know if you understood how i came across them. i want to do a long cycle with the bottles i just obtained so i was thinking run the methlys and the more toxics first with liver support and end the cycle with non methlys where ls is not needed and pct isnt a issue of course.

 

[Megatron28]

ive been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for a while and was planning on a deca Winstrol (winny) cycle in the next couple of weeks but i ran into a guy that had dozens of bottles of ph sd clones a little of everything, has to be close to a thousand dollars of supps and the guy need was short a payment to an attorney so i offered him $100. and he took it. i agree that there is no subsitute for fda approved aas very agreed. just didnt know if you understood how i came across them. i want to do a long cycle with the bottles i just obtained so i was thinking run the methlys and the more toxics first with liver support and end the cycle with non methlys where ls is not needed and post cycle therapy (pct) isnt a issue of course.

Sounds too good to be true. My guess is you lost $100.

 

[lakers0812]

ok bros i ran across a deal i couldnt pass up. met a guy who needed money and sold me a HUGE lot of ph and other stuff for $100. so easy choice i bought it cause it was all still in experation. ill mention the ones im interested in using soon. m14ad, trenazone, stano 200, dzine being i got like tons of ph bottles every where i want to do a long yet safe cycle of a few of these. so i was thinking

m14add 1-6 weeks
dzine 6-12
possibly buying some lmg 12-16
trenazone and stano 16-22

i know m14ad is liver harsh and dzine is extremely light on it but the others are non methyl sooooo...??? what to do ideas? i have tons of other ph from the lot so my choice is endless, this one just seemed the mildest to me.

I would use real gear its just so much better. If you are going to run a ph/ds with your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), i'd run superdrol or halodrol (as they dont aromatize). This way you won't be messing with your e2 and can keep your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose the same. Also m14add gains are wet and its a dbol precursor. You might as well use real dbol. I dont know what trenazone is but if its similar to oral tren, you better think again as that stuff is HARSH on the liver.

 

[kaoz123]

Dude Dont run that long of orals are u crazy! Orals are not supposed to be ran that long. It will kill your liver n probably enlarge your prostrate . Trust me I've played around with ph's for over 15yrs. Runs a 6 week blast testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with methyl n non methyl stacked . Then get off don't run longer then 6weeks.

 

[bonexyster]

Sounds too good to be true. My guess is you lost $100.

He had reciets and I chose a random bottle and tried before I pulled the trigger and the guy liv3s down the street its legit. Made a mad deal. I could sell half make profit and keep half, pretty stoked

 

[bonexyster]

Trenazone is tren but nonmethyle non liver toxic. And real gear is better no question, but I already have the m14add just hard forking out cash being I paid like $4.00 or something for the m14. I dont like ph just wanted opinions. Ive done 3 sd cycles over the last few years the last time it didnt work well im not interested in it any longer. Never ran dzine I do want to run it though.

 

[fitnessgeek]

I ran the Trenazone for 8 weeks early last year and at double the dose and got great results. It was the only ph I would do this with for that long because it was a topical though.

The ones you have would a make a great stack especially for that price. Problem is that you also have to run a very tight on cycle support which is going to cost you. I've never been a fan of the "all in one" cycle support supplements because I needed to make sure I was getting at least the minimum dosages and I just didn't want to take a chance on that aspect of my cycle. But buying them individual got pretty expensive quick. Plus my post cycle therapy (pct) would be pretty much the same as a gear cycle.

 

[bonexyster]

I ran the Trenazone for 8 weeks early last year and at double the dose and got great results. It was the only ph I would do this with for that long because it was a topical though.

The ones you have would a make a great stack especially for that price. Problem is that you also have to run a very tight on cycle support which is going to cost you. I've never been a fan of the "all in one" cycle support supplements because I needed to make sure I was getting at least the minimum dosages and I just didn't want to take a chance on that aspect of my cycle. But buying them individual got pretty expensive quick. Plus my post cycle therapy (pct) would be pretty much the same as a gear cycle.

So you ran as high as 2.0? I heard it makes you sweat bad at high dosages, true? Ima kick start with the m14 then dzine with supps then bridge to the tz and add some stano 200 to finish with nonmethyls.

 

[fitnessgeek]

So you ran as high as 2.0? I heard it makes you sweat bad at high dosages, true? Ima kick start with the m14 then dzine with supps then bridge to the tz and add some stano 200 to finish with nonmethyls.

I ran as high as 3.0 (1.5 twice a day).
Didnt notice any sweats. I was a little light headed about 30 mintes after application but only for a few minutes. Kind of like an adrenaline rush or something.

 

[bonexyster]

Where did u start the tz at? How did u increase over the weeks? How many bottles did u have I have 2 on hand.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Yeah the TZ is what I would be curious about, it could inhibit estrogen and prolactin, albeit probably not very much, but you may not need to lower them much, it could help you stay leaner.

It should be or like formestane.

 

[fitnessgeek]

Where did u start the tz at? How did u increase over the weeks? How many bottles did u have I have 2 on hand.

The first cycle I started at 1.0 for 2 weeks to make sure I didn't have a bad reaction. I went to 2.0 the next week-it might have only been a few days as I was getting impatient-then went to 3.0 the rest of the way. I had to buy a second bottle the first cycle. The second cycle I went in with 3 bottles cause I knew it would work and didn't mind spending the money on it. I wound up having a small piece of bottle left over but I don't think all the bottles are accurately dosed.
By the way I alternated the back of my neck and thigh area for the doses if that helps.

 

[bonexyster]

Thanks for the info I will run much higher. Were u cutting or bulking? If I were cutting would u still run a higher dose

 

[fitnessgeek]

Thanks for the info I will run much higher. Were u cutting or bulking? If I were cutting would u still run a higher dose

Neither-I just wanted to get stronger. The weight I gained as a bit of a pleasant surprise. I do a lot of grappling training and tournaments. Obviously I want to look good, but I don't focus on that. The only time weight pays a factor is a week before the tournament when I cut down to whichever weight I want to compete in. I don't really taper down to it-I just cut out the cell volumizers, skip a few meals and cut the rest in the sauna.
That being said I wouldn't use this for cutting as you will gain weight on this-mostly clean but not all of it.