proposing another first cycle.

[tbonexl]

Just drop the dbol.

 

[fitguy22]

who about if i add something else that i won't need to inject everyday?? deca or Tren?

 

[Metalhead]

Just worry about test first and see how your body reacts before you start stacking

 

[fitguy22]

You may want to consider start adex at .25mg EOD. I would rather err to the side of letting E2 be a little too high than too low. You will be getting blood work to get yourself dialed in right? And can we please see your pre-cycle baseline blood work?

Why are you set on using sustanton over Test E/C?

Why are you choosing to not use hCG?

Make sure you take NAC the entire time to help you liver.




This is a question for everyone else: is two weeks enough time time start PCT after using Sustanton? Does it clear out that quickly? Isn't the half life of the Decanoate ester about 15 days?

iv added HCG, i couldn't post tho.
because i ordered susta already and I'm a student so i had to save up to get that lol. iv gotten 3 vials of susta 250. that will be enough for 12 week cycle. and yes iv searched and ill be starting PCT 3-4 weeks after my last pin. thanks for ur feedback mega =)

 

[fitguy22]

Just worry about test first and see how your body reacts before you start stacking

yes its my first ACTUAL cycle, i trusted a friend and he gave me sust-, as a try ( i didn't know it was TRT ) he was just making money off of (charging me nearly 110$ per shot of 1 ml...it helped me gain weight but once i understood he fucked me over i went thru a pct and got better with my test levels were almost between 700-800. so now I'm getting on a cycle and my bodes used to sustanon thats why i chose it and added dbol. only sides i got with SUSt was oily skin, acne and sweats thats it.

 

[Metalhead]

If youre gonna add one of the two go with deca. Research it and know what to expect.

 

[Matt0071]

yes its my first ACTUAL cycle, i trusted a friend and he gave me sust-, as a try ( i didn't know it was TRT ) he was just making money off of (charging me nearly 110$ per shot of 1 ml...it helped me gain weight but once i understood he fucked me over i went thru a pct and got better with my test levels were almost between 700-800. so now I'm getting on a cycle and my bodes used to sustanon thats why i chose it and added dbol. only sides i got with SUSt was oily skin, acne and sweats thats it.

Damn bro did I read that right, $110.00 for 1ml?

 

[fitguy22]

Damn bro did I read that right, $110.00 for 1ml?

yeah bro, i paid him almost 400$ for total of 7ml, which i found out now i was robbed, but thats not the worst part: he was actually a friend of mine who iv helped A LOT to getting settle in china and school but hey i guess money to some people is more important lol

 

[Matt0071]

Damn man, not worth a friendship thats forsure,pretty ballzy to fuck a friend over
So he was buying another vile per ml he was selling u

 

[fitguy22]

yeah iv been reading a lot on it. can i pin it twice a week and get good results?

 

[fitguy22]

Damn man, not worth a friendship thats forsure,pretty ballzy to fuck a friend over

yeah i know. thats when i turned to the internet and found this site and started reading etc
yup i had a talk with him once i found some good sources who were selling for a normal prices just 5-10$ differences and i showed him and he apologized and gave me some of it back lol

 

[Metalhead]

Yeah. Pin deca twice a week mixed in with the sust. Youll need caber or prami to combat prolactin. Keeping your e2 in rnage helps also

 

[Matt0071]

Just make your pin days
Mon 250mg
Thurs 250mg
U still running deca?, if anything why not npp instesd of deca if u alresdy made your mind up not running a " test only" cycle

 

[fitguy22]

Just make your pin days
Mon 250mg
Thurs 250mg
U still running deca?, if anything why not npp instesd of deca if u alresdy made your mind up not running a " test only" cycle

i haven't made up my mind yet, ill be starting in april so i have time. as of now i have 10ml dbol, 30ml sustanon, nova 30mg (30 tabs), arimidex 1mg(30 tabs) , clomid 50mg(30 tab) and hCg 3 vials(5000ui in each). I'm thinking of replacing Dbol with something else so maybe ill order 2 10mls of deca but i dont know which one will be more beneficial for me.


so you're saying i should do NPP? I'm correct thats deca and test prop?

 

[Matt0071]

I would honestly just do a test only cycle bro, run sustanon for 12 weeks, 500mg/week making your pin day monday 250mg, and thurs 250mg, arimidex .5 eod
Pct
Nolv
40/40/20/20
Clomid
100/100/50/50

 

[Matt0071]

I would honestly just do a test only cycle bro, run sustanon for 12 weeks, 500mg/week making your pin day monday 250mg, and thurs 250mg, arimidex .5 eod
Pct
Nolv
40/40/20/20
Clomid
100/100/50/50

Save the deca for next cycle

 

[fitguy22]

alright bro, thanks ill give sustanon ONLy a try and ill post some pics up so you guys can see if I'm making any progress and what i need to change. thanks allot matt for all your help, really appreciate it. thanks everyone as well! =)

 

[Matt0071]

Just keep reading man, u got lots of time before u start

 

[BigGains]

You may want to consider start adex at .25mg EOD. I would rather err to the side of letting E2 be a little too high than too low. You will be getting blood work to get yourself dialed in right? And can we please see your pre-cycle baseline blood work?

Why are you set on using sustanton over Test E/C?

Why are you choosing to not use hCG?

Make sure you take NAC the entire time to help you liver.




This is a question for everyone else: is two weeks enough time time start PCT after using Sustanton? Does it clear out that quickly? Isn't the half life of the Decanoate ester about 15 days?

Hey Megatron-no, that's not long enough for the deconate ester to be completely gone (or at least low enough) to allow for an effective PCT. I double checked my wait time with the PCT calculator (included in a post I made yesterday; 500mg of a test e only run), and it calculated 22 days. As we know deconate has a longer half life, two weeks is not enough time. If he decides to run sust (I'm assuming he already has it and that's why he's set on it), he'd need to wait 31 days after his last injection to start pct.

Fit guy-if you haven't purchased them yet, I think the general consensus from the guys here is enanthate or cyp my man. Sust---multiple esters---higher likelihood of hormonal variations(increase possibility of sides)--more frequent injections--longer wait time until starting pct.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

IMO even 14 days for Test E/C is too short of a time, the ester is still in your system @ 500mg for 12 weeks and PCT calculator should be used.