proposing another first cycle.

IMO even 14 days for Test E/C is too short of a time, the ester is still in your system @ 500mg for 12 weeks and PCT calculator should be used.

Agreed. The PCT calculator suggested waiting 22 days minimum (for a test e, 12week cycle @ 500mg/week, via two 250mg injections). There's a "Show FAQ" link on the PCT calculator page that explains what you just mentioned. Pretty cool stuff in my opinion.
 
When I came off my first TRT attempt (more of a cycle you could say 250mg E7D then decided to try get my natty production back, silly mistake it just set me back more) I still felt good until day 20 or so until I felt that solid drop off. 14 days is just a guide but if you do the maths the ester is still in your system in a considerable amount at 14 days post injection, a low amount yes, but enough.
 
When I came off my first TRT attempt (more of a cycle you could say 250mg E7D then decided to try get my natty production back, silly mistake it just set me back more) I still felt good until day 20 or so until I felt that solid drop off. 14 days is just a guide but if you do the maths the ester is still in your system in a considerable amount at 14 days post injection, a low amount yes, but enough.

Yep. The calculator estimated that 217.8mg of ester (test enanthate) would still be present 14 days after last injection (you'd still be suppressed at this point).
 
Yep. The calculator estimated that 217.8mg of ester (test enanthate) would still be present 14 days after last injection (you'd still be suppressed at this point).

Absolutely, which I why some people still report strength gains in the first week of PCT or say that the first week of PCT they don't see what all the fuss about of the crash is then it hits like a train lol.
 
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