proviron for women

[irongirl]

im intrested in trying an anti estrogen for my contest season ..but am concerned about the sides. if you have used it, what is your take on it? how was going off?

 

[GymLift]

Premenopausal women's primary source of estrogen created by the ovaries rather than the aromatase enzyme, so all of the available aromatase inhibitors aren't going to significantly reduce your estrogen levels.

 

[irongirl]

so its not enough to bother with it?

 

[GymLift]

I don't think it is worth the bother.

 

[polish_P]

It won't supress estrogen in women but because it is an androgen it works well as a hardening agent. You would use nolvadex to control estrogen and proviron to help harden you up.

 

[GymLift]

Use Nolvadex to block estrogen, not to control it.

 

[irongirl]

i have heard nolva had some bad effects once you come off..thats what makes me nervous..i dont want to f### myself up hormonally and regret it. did any of you have bad experiences with nolva?

 

[GymLift]

I would be concerned, also.

You might want to take a look at this thread which discusses similar issues.

 

[irongirl]

thanks!

 

[GymLift]

Just wish I had some more information.

 

[BlondeAmazon]

irongirl

How old are you? I am 40 and using Proviron for the fist cycle I have ever tried. It is working AMAZINGLY well and I am having no side effects from 50 MG a day.

 

[irongirl]

im 35...i just got some nolvadex. its worked well for you? what has been your experience? i plan on running it for 6 weeks through 2 shows.

 

[BlondeAmazon]

for irongirl

Well so far-- (I have been on it about 8 days) I am finding that my cardio has gone insane-- meaning my energy levels are through the roof! I am up to level 13 on stairmaster for 30 min plus about 60 min heavy lifting. I am up 10 lbs on my bench to 215 and my dumbell lifts using 50 lb weights.. I am eating aprox. 2400-2800 cal a day very clean. I am SLEEPING better than I have in years.. I was taking 50 mg right before my workouts at 430 am-- but I seemed to tire quickly 7-8 in the evenings -- more than usual-- I read that Pro has an active life of 8-10 hours so I split the dose 25 mg at 430 am and 25 mg about noon. Will see how that goes.. How are you liking the Nov?

 

[irongirl]

are you running it with anything else? im 15mg of var. ill do mine 20mg divided into 2 ..2 x day. i didnt know it was good for anthing more than cutting..good for you!

 

[BlondeAmazon]

I have ordered Winstrol (winny) to go with it-- but since I have never taken anything I thought- slower the better- so I will go 2 weeks with the pro to make sure no crazy reactions then add the Winstrol (winny) 50 mg injection every 4 days for 15 injections then start tapering off the pro.. Thats my plan anyway--

 

[irongirl]

be careful of winny....its got alot of sides

 

[BlondeAmazon]

huh

I have read tons on it and spoken to a dozen or so female body builders-- and they all recommended Winstrol (winny) as a first. Besides the obvious virilization possibilites-- what sides-- and I am going low dose-- 50 mg every 5th day-- not 4th-- posted that wrong-- so i SHOULD be ok????

 

[irongirl]

good luck..keep me posted. iam running var as 1st cycle as well adn love it. not a side to speak of..im on week 8 or 9. added about 5 lbs so far if lbm

 

[supergirl]

Use Nolvadex to block estrogen, not to control it.

Nolvadex actually allows us to control estrogen... nolvadex actually helps prevent estrogenic activity but binding to the estrogen recetor... arimidex will prevent estrogen from being released altogether...

Proviron does show anti-estrogenic capibilities and i know alot of guys use it with nolvadex as a joint anti-estrogen... but in a female the androgenic effect will be almost too much to bare...

please remember that as a male giving advice in the women's forum, our bodies respond VERY differently.. so unless you know exactly what you are talking about and have had personal experience with the subject at hand, you may refrain from voicing an "uneducated female experience" opinion...

This is not a direct attack on you, however it is misguided advice from men and or women without correct information that totally fuck a female beginner/novice up...

thank you kindly
super



***** polish_P is correct that proviron is an androgen and a hardening agent mainly reserved for pre-contest**** it will dry you up tremendously, sometimes too much and YES there can be many side effects... This Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) boils down to knowing your body and weighing the pros vs the cons...

good luck irongirl!!!