I think if the peptides get too warm they suffer potency degradation pretty severely. I always prefer SRC if I can afford it. Always cold pack shipped and damn near made right next door to me. I FEEL SRC's peptides big time. Not so much with cheaper sources like extreme peptide or aminosRus. Might just be bunk Chinese crap from the start with sources who charge around or under $20/btl
Now that's a legit argument! I live in a different place in US and I asked ergo to ship my stuff differently and they have but I wonder if I could ask them to cold ship it if I payed a little more.
Before I ran anything I started it naturally and when I saw that I hit plateau I use the peptides and it took off insanely...hence the reason why I believe in them.
I have used peptides after being reconned for 45-50 days and I did feel them being weaker but that's any peptide.
And I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night? Who cares. There was 3rd party testing and turns out they weren't selling DES.
I'm just saying if it were my health and my money I wouldn't use it. Or at least have it tested. I was using Extreme Peptides DES and I didn't notice anything... They use the same supplier.
Yes your Holiday Inn experience is the same as the 110+K I have spent on college and multi-million dollars university researches I participate in. totally the same!
I see that you have roamed PM and PHF....it's funny how those 3 day researches you are talking about were done by PHF...the same people that said the transform PHs were "fake" and come to find out they done some sneaky stuff and that transform stuff were legit but yeah PHF tells the truth all the time. But you know what? I wonder why PHF never goes after the other guys in peptides? Like PM has a lot of other peptides suppliers on their forum why don't they test their products? I wanna know if those $100 vials of DES are legit or not.
Also Extreme peptides did NOT get their DES from Ergo...they got their folli from them which they were untaged and legit then they stopped shopping from ergo and went with precision peptides folli supplier which sold legit TAGGED folli...do you know what are the differences between those.
Lets look at it this way....test cost pretty descent and NPP is kinda expensive. Well...I got a shit load of them from Ganabol for waaaaay cheaper and about to homebrew them for much less. Does that make them fake? No, that means they are dealing with bulk orders so that's how they are making their money...they are the sams of AAS. That doesn't make them fake.
Also they are forums out their with a lot of people saying how much good results they have gotten from ergo stuff but I guess they just respond well to salts just like me.
Just think about it...SALT...how could salt not hurt if you inject it INTO your muscles...it's salt! I guess PHF didn't think that far into it.