He may have his first shot and die of anaphylactic shock, who knows.
Generally 250mgs of test doesnt cause any problems
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He may have his first shot and die of anaphylactic shock, who knows.
Generally 250mgs of test doesnt cause any problems
The reason your join date and post count are like they are is becoming quite apparent.
riprockwell
New member
Banzi the more you post the more ignorant you look. Not bashing you but you have to see what you are posting is ridiculous. Who cares if you never did PCT's and are fine. That may be the exception, not the rule. How do you know you were fine? Some guys have low T and don't know it and sometimes it doesn't affect libido or erections. Secondly, 250mg per week is going to inhibit his natural testosterone so when you say it's dose dependent, that's just talking on behalf of everyone here. Again some guys can cycle several times and recover fine. Others can cycle once and never recover. We generally tell guys to wait until at least 25 for several reasons. One being that we don't want to mess up the HPTA and secondly because they most likely don't know a whole bunch about diet, training, nor have they reached their genetic limit. So why hop on steroids to get something that they can do naturally for a while and not have to deal with hormone problems? You said that 250mg per week wouldn't cause him any problem. That's one of the issues I've had. You mention you trained through NO PCT. Please explain how you train through PCT and recover. There are a lot of smart dudes on here who would love to know.
And you feel no responsibility?
That's the second time you've pointed it out to me. Why do you care what my post count is? Should one assume you're an AAS idiot bc of yours?
Norsegod
Gym=My Drug
And dude. I trained for over 8 years before I even considered it. There are training programs and different diets that would put a lot of mass on you. You need to know how every little thing effects you week by week, day by day, hour by hour. Didn't levels of water and how you respond, different foods, different types of training. No one, and I mean no one, can learn all that in 3 years and even if they could, when you would have started to experiment with those things, the results you got would be different from now because you changed a lot in those 3 years from maturing. I get your point, but do you really think you can know at this early in your game of training that you would even want to be trying to be mr. Olympia even 3 years from now?. And even if you do know and still wanted to them, you would grow more from doing it the right way because you're bodies receptors wouldn't burn it as fast, you would react more as you upped doses over cycles, and you would know how each compound effects YOU and that is VERY important to the competitive bber. Be smart. You still have a lot of natural potential. use it and in the long run you'll look way better.
Megatron28
Moderator
How is this for an analogy to what you said? You smoked two packs of cigs a day for 50 years and never got cancer. Therefore everybody should be able to do the same.
The guy is asking for advice, Im giving him advice to err on the side of caution and dont go overboard dosage wise.
As for responsibility no, not at all, if I felt any personal responsibility I would tell everyone to never take anything at all.
Is that your advice for everyone on here?
As for me bing an idiot?
Apart from posting totally off topic you haven't given the op any advice.
Do you have any advice for the OP at all?
I didn't say you're an idiot. I said if we're going to make inferences based off post count it can go both ways. I actually liked your advice regarding the spinal taps in that one thread so I know you do make some good points.
My advice to OP would be to wait a little longer before starting AAS. If he is hell bent on starting I'd suggest getting X-rays and blood work to see where he stands before beginning any sort of hormone cycle.
Are you seriously suggesting that natural training you can gain the same as you can with chemical enhancement?
As for the lack of PCT its about letting go of the ego, you have to come to terms you are going to lose weight/muscle mass look smoother lose some strength.
I always saw taking PCT as just prolonging the time it took your body to get back to working normally on its own.
Its what happens, drugs are just a temporary fix, it doesn't last forever.
Drop the weight, put up with the shitty pumps and achy joints and look forward to the next cycle knowing you are going to respond better to the gear when you go back on.
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That would have been good enough, you didnt need to attack my posts and hijack the thread to make your point.
I thought your recommendation here was irresponsible and offer my perspective as to "250mg won't do anything to him". I also wanted to make a joke with Megatron who is a member I respect on here. OP is still getting advice so I hardly consider it a hijack
I thought your recommendation here was irresponsible and offer my perspective as to "250mg won't do anything to him". I also wanted to make a joke with Megatron who is a member I respect on here. OP is still getting advice so I hardly consider it a hijack
So your advice is dont take anything for an indeterminate amount of time, my advice is try 250mgs a week of test E, great, let the OP decide what he wants to do.
I don't see how ego and PCT have anything to do with each other here. Purpose of PCT is to restore endogenous hormonal production at a faster rate than when left to the body's own means. Without PCT HPTA suppression could last for months upon months or even years. ASIH (Anabolic Steroid induced Hypogonadism) is a very real possibility as well. PCT helps restore hormonal production faster and more effectively than without. You'll only lose muscle if you are past your genetic potential when coming off cycle or if your diet and training aren't conducive to maintaining what you have. It's not automatic that everyone loses muscle off cycle.
Anecdotally, I kept increasing intensity throughout PCT while reducing volume and kept making progress. I also used cialis pre-workout so pumps were never an issue.
You neither suggested X-rays nor blood work. If he is to cycle at such a young age those should not be optional.
95% of steroid users do not get regular blood work done.
I don't know anyone who gets regular blood work done and I have been in the sport for almost 30 years.
Im in the UK by the way, I don't know what happens anywhere else.
Hopefully by drilling it into ppl's heads we can change that statistic. Polycythemia, elevated estradiol, elevated PRL, elevated AST/ALT, elevated BUN and creatinine, etc can all be serious concerns, potentially lethal. I know I'm constantly preaching blood work and so are many others here. If someone doesn't listen that is on them but at least I have made an effort to educate them on the potential dangers involved.
How often do you have your bloods done?
I only know people have it done when they come off to see if they are getting back to normal levels.
I do it pre-cycle, 6-10wks into the cycle, and 6-8wks post PCT. If someone only does bloods after the cycle how would they know what 'normal' is since they never did it before the cycle? That's why I'd recommend pre cycle bloods and mid cycle is to see where certain levels are like HCT, RBC, AST, ALT, BUN, Creatinine, BUN/Creatinine, total test and LH/FSH could tell you if the gear is bunk, etc
Megatron28
Moderator
I do blood work pre-cycle, mid-cycle and post-cycle. Also anywhere along the way if a complication develops. I do all this and I am on TRT. I would worry even more about getting blood work if I was still natty.
I think what you are missing is that blood work is cheap and easy in the US. I don't need a doctor to get labs. I can go to a private lab where only I see the results. I get the results in 24 hours and their location is very close to my house. A hormone panel costs $50.
I think what you are missing is that blood work is cheap and easy in the US. I don't need a doctor to get labs. I can go to a private lab where only I see the results. I get the results in 24 hours and their location is very close to my house. A hormone panel costs $50.
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