questions on my first cycle

[BIGREDTHENDEAD]

I'm taking steroids regard less if some people think I'm not just cuz they have taken steroids but I got all the advice I need thanks for all the advice

 

[DreDay187]

It was about making reckless decisions because peoples brains were not fully developed wasn't it?
Did I misread the article you posted?

As for my gain of 14lb on 250mgs of test, its likely a high % of water and glycogen retention, as for fat, none, in fact I lose fat.
Now as for keeping any weight I have weighed between 200 to 230 for the last 10 years, I have pretty much reached my genetic limitations and Im not prepared to risk my health by taking additional drugs to do it.

Clean I weigh between 200 and 210 and on cycle I can go up to 230, Im around 230 now at around 11% BF.

So you don't gain any fat ever? You really think you gain only muscle and no fat? Please leave the naïveté at home, this is reality not fantasy.

My balls shrink when I take gear and go back to normal when I come off, I think thats pretty normal.
Have I got big balls?
No idea, I tend not to look at other guys balls to make the comparison.

This was good for a laugh. Ball size doesn't mean you're hypogonadal or not lol.

What Im getting at is you are making sweeping generalisations over an internet forum.
Some people will be ready to make informed decisions before age 25
If you take this stance to its logical conclusion we will be advising people under age 25 not to try and go for a 1 rep max on his squat based on the fact he's not 25 and his brain isn't developed enough to make an informed decision and he's more likely to make a risky decision than a rational one.
Why are you trying to "mother" people.
Maybe the reason why people cant make rational decisions before they turn 25 these days is because society doesnt want them to.
Kids staying at home until they are 30 is not uncommon these days
My grandad was married with a child and had his own house at 18, paid for by working down the pit.
Im pretty sure he was making informed and reasoned decisions back then, its because he had to.
I notice one of the Scientists in the link Dre provided had two dumb kids who couldn't make decisions for themselves, not her fault of course.

Your recommendation the other day that 250mg won't do anything...wasn't that a sweeping generalization? You are allowed to make them but no one else?

It's not solely about decision makking with regards to age, the endocrine system also isn't finished developing and messing with it before that is an unnecessary risk.

Congratulations to your grandfather...he wasn't injecting hormones into his body. Please leave ludicrous irrelevant examples out of this discussion.

 

[banzi]

So you don't gain any fat ever? You really think you gain only muscle and no fat? Please leave the naïveté at home, this is reality not fantasy.

I don't gain fat when I take gear no, thats correct, my body composition changes quite dramatically.
Im not naive enough to believe Im gaining real quality long lasting muscle either, its a temporary gain.

Your recommendation the other day that 250mg won't do anything...wasn't that a sweeping generalization? You are allowed to make them but no one else?

250mgs is unlikely to cause the majority of users any issues just the same as the majority of users wont get any issues by taking anything before the age of 25, sure there will be some people who have issues but its the exception not the norm.

It's not solely about decision makking with regards to age, the endocrine system also isn't finished developing and messing with it before that is an unnecessary risk.

Right, fair enough, the age for taking gear starts at 25, why isn't there a disclaimer in the membership rules forbidding everyone under 25?

Congratulations to your grandfather...he wasn't injecting hormones into his body. Please leave ludicrous irrelevant examples out of this discussion.

Now who's making ludicrous statements, the point was he was making life decisions at 18 that many dont make until their 30s these days.

I did say I wasn't going to respond to you anymore and I have broken my word, its my opinion your post count(yes thats three times I have mentioned it) clearly indicates a lot said but nothing spoken.

I wont address your posts again, Ignore function activated.

 

[DreDay187]

I don't gain fat when I take gear no, thats correct, my body composition changes quite dramatically.
Im not naive enough to believe Im gaining real quality long lasting muscle either, its a temporary gain.

What makes muscle lasting muscle? There's no difference in muscle built with gear than muscle built without, you're making a false dichotomy here. Bullshit you don't gain fat. You're human not a deity.

250mgs is unlikely to cause the majority of users any issues just the same as the majority of users wont get any issues by taking anything before the age of 25, sure there will be some people who have issues but its the exception not the norm.

Aren't you the one advocating to not 'mother' everybody? This seems to me what you're doing here now.

Right, fair enough, the age for taking gear starts at 25, why isn't there a disclaimer in the membership rules forbidding everyone under 25?

If you read the fine print it says this site does not condone the use of illegal drugs and one must be over the age of 18 to join...for liability purposes. Has nothing to do with moral and sound decisions and advice which is where the rest of us come in. We urge ppl to make the most researched and educated choices possible.

Now who's making ludicrous statements, the point was he was making life decisions at 18 that many dont make until their 30s these days.

We're not talking about buying a house or getting married, we're talking about permanent issues to an undeveloped HPTA. Again, when you're grandfather injects himself with exogenous hormones in an attempt to run a cycle you can let us know. Until then he's not relevant.

I did say I wasn't going to respond to you anymore and I have broken my word, its my opinion your post count(yes thats three times I have mentioned it) clearly indicates a lot said but nothing spoken.

I wont address your posts again, Ignore function activated.

Yes you did oh well. We all make mistakes. Your post count indicates you're heading in the same direction .

Ignore at will.

 

[Megatron28]

My balls shrink when I take gear and go back to normal when I come off, I think thats pretty normal.
Have I got big balls?
No idea, I tend not to look at other guys balls to make the comparison.

The sky is blue. What either of these have to do with anything is beyond me, but thanks for telling us all about your hairy balls.

 

[DreDay187]

The sky is blue. What either of these have to do with anything is beyond me, but thanks for telling us all about your hairy balls.

Megatron, as a friend, I would like to point out to you your post count. Be careful it doesn't get too high otherwise that would negatively impact your future posts and your reputation

 

[Megatron28]

What Im getting at is you are making sweeping generalisations over an internet forum.
Some people will be ready to make informed decisions before age 25
If you take this stance to its logical conclusion we will be advising people under age 25 not to try and go for a 1 rep max on his squat based on the fact he's not 25 and his brain isn't developed enough to make an informed decision and he's more likely to make a risky decision than a rational one.
Why are you trying to "mother" people.
Maybe the reason why people cant make rational decisions before they turn 25 these days is because society doesnt want them to.
Kids staying at home until they are 30 is not uncommon these days
My grandad was married with a child and had his own house at 18, paid for by working down the pit.
Im pretty sure he was making informed and reasoned decisions back then, its because he had to.
I notice one of the Scientists in the link Dre provided had two dumb kids who couldn't make decisions for themselves, not her fault of course.

It doesn't seem like your brain is fully processing the points I am making about brain development. You seem fixated on decision making only.

 

[Fieldsy]

240, 15%bf.

I call bs. Pics or it didn't happen.