great fast cheap good products kits B-D syriyinges kick ass got the 25ga 1 1/2" (could not feel the shot at all) after using termos 23ga 1 1/2 forever but B-D's are shaper, sturdier, easier for onsites and can draw back about 4 cc's to push air out.
#1 in my books!
B-legit said:
i gotta check em out

you wont be disapointed very nice web site and i got my order in 3 days.
Top Quality on everything,
try it I bet you will use it over and over!

try B-D pins bro! beat termos by far!