Safest/Cleaning Anabolic

[dannydd]

Hi all,

I'm interested in using test as my first cycle, but wouldn't mind researching alternatives.

Is there anything else out there that is safer, clean and have little to no side effects in comparison to test which will give some decent results out of the cycle? I want to do a 3 mth cycle and get off and try to maintain all or most of the results from the cycle.

Thanks

 

[crazybaked]

Hey bro, I'm new to the forums but not to the darkside .. read up on "first cycle".. unless you don't mind stabbing yourself eod then stick to test e or cyp for your first cycle.. you really need to know how your body will react to the gear before stacking multiple compounds. Now me personally on first cycle if no or minimal negative sides then throwing in a short ester hardener like mast or Winstrol (winny) for the last 6 weeks would prolly be OK.. if you want to keep any gains make sure to have your AI's and post cycle therapy (pct) on hand and planned out before u start...

 

[dannydd]

umm, sorry you didn't answer what I asked.

Anyone?

 

[SquadLeader]

Test is just as safe as anything else it comes down to how high of a dose you use. Do you have a fear of injecting? If not a test e only cycle at 500mg a week is your best bet.

 

[tesseract]

Everything comes with a price, test will give you results, but you will have side effects. And you can forget about keeping most of your results, 50% to maybe 65% is realistic tho, however you need to be very disciplined with your diet, and your post cycle therapy (pct) must be in there too, without post cycle therapy (pct) you will just go back to whatever you were and probably even lower.

In conclusion there is no safe anabolic they will all shut you down and it is your responsability to get your natural test back up and working. Test c imo is the safest and themost forgiving cause it is very slow. I have a feeling that you think that steroids are magical compounds created by zeus himself. Once you get into this you must work even harder then you did before.

 

[dannydd]

Thanks for the responses.

Yes, my thoughts and decisions are leaning towards 500-600mg test/week. I was just wondering what my options are, maybe if something else exists which will give similar results without many side effects.

Have you guys noticed a lot of side effects on just test alone? if so, what did you see?

Dan

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hi all,

I'm interested in using test as my first cycle, but wouldn't mind researching alternatives.

Is there anything else out there that is safer, clean and have little to no side effects in comparison to test which will give some decent results out of the cycle? I want to do a 3 mth cycle and get off and try to maintain all or most of the results from the cycle.

Thanks

Regardless of if you use any other anabolics, test should be in every cycle if its not already the whole cycle itself.

So your question doesnt make sence.
Keep researching and WELCOME to the forum!

 

[juced_porkchop]

Test is just as safe as anything else it comes down to how high of a dose you use. Do you have a fear of injecting? If not a test e only cycle at 500mg a week is your best bet.

and test is the only thing natty that should actually BE in your body.
everything else is just an altered form of it.

TestE I say

 

[juced_porkchop]

erything comes with a price, test will give you results, but you will have side effects. And you can forget about keeping most of your results, 50% to maybe 65% is realistic tho, however you need to be very disciplined with your diet, and your post cycle therapy (pct) must be in there too, without post cycle therapy (pct) you will just go back to whatever you were and probably even lower.

In conclusion there is no safe anabolic they will all shut you down and it is your responsability to get your natural test back up and working. Test c imo is the safest and themost forgiving cause it is very slow. I have a feeling that you think that steroids are magical compounds created by zeus himself. Once you get into this you must work even harder then you did before.

very stupid statment. Not true.
+ you should be using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to keep estro levels normal and bloat and BP down also if thats an issue.

 

[juced_porkchop]

PCT is a GOOD idea but why is it you think you would not recover? you would, just not as fast and yes you could lose more gains then if you did a PCT.
I think you can keep most of your gains if you know what you are doing and not looking at water as anything other then water.
maybe you are lumping them together? i unno

 

[juced_porkchop]

BTW i hope the thread starter knows about PCT's and AI's!
if not look into STANE and CLOMID! (and hold off cycle till you study this all very well BEFORE hand)

 

[dannydd]

Thanks for the responses. Yes, I'm aware of all the PCTs and AIs...definitely.

A friend of mine suggested Anavar as safe solution. He's been on it for 9 months though and I haven't really seen any results from it...looks the same, just a few more cuts. Can you add muscle with Anavar? It looks as though there's no side effects at all and doesn't need PCT's & AI's.

 

[anadrol350]

If you looking for something safe, stick with anavar and some deca.

 

[kingsfandave]

keep researching bro, imo post cycle therapy (pct) is sometimes more important then the actual cycle

 

[Jack Tors]

If you looking for something safe, stick with ana Anavar (var) and some deca.

nah not deca
primo (which is a test) and Anavar (var) considered "safest" but its often faked and expensive.
you need to run a lot more of it to see results. people love it though...


test cyp or enth is all you need.

 

[thades]

If you dont have a vagina...dont run Anavar (var) only...

 

[anadrol350]

Deca is usually considered to be of all the injectables steroids the most anabolic with the aspect not having that much side effects.

 

[Jack Tors]

Deca is usually considered to be of all the injectables steroids the most anabolic with the aspect not having that much side effects.

hilarious i wouldnt consider it to cleanest\safest being that its a 19-nor. sides at a normal dosage 400mgs can be a real problem and if your prone to gyno u gotta be careful. by no means a noobie compound

 

[juced_porkchop]

Thanks for the responses. Yes, I'm aware of all the PCTs and AIs...definitely. no you are no because you think you dont need one with anavar... you right about the AI... but so what that dosnt make it a better option, its not that simple

A friend of mine suggested Anavar as safe solution. He's been on it for 9 months though and I haven't really seen any results from it...looks the same, just a few more cuts. Can you add muscle with Anavar? It looks as though there's no side effects at all and doesn't need PCT's & AI's.

So you are telling me your friend has been on a liver toxic oral for 9 months?!?! and with NO test added? (meaning hes runnign on fumes which is VERY unhealthy , your body used test for many functions not just muscle)

your friend doesnt know what he is doing and IS hurting himself.
you know we normally only rec and use orals for 4-8weeks at a time (10 max and already really pushing it) Liver toxic orals can cause liver and other organ damage. its hard on blood aswell.
oral only cycles are not a good idea.
if your not goign to pin guess what, .... no for you.

ohhh you think he dosnt need PCT?
why so?
you are wrong, anavar shuts you down so why would you not need a pct?

are you a troll just trying to get a rise out of us?

 

[juced_porkchop]

Deca is usually considered to be of all the injectables steroids the most anabolic with the aspect not having that much side effects.

thats a bullshit statment man.
thats not true.
it depends on MANY factors.

you can get side effects from deca you would not get with test.
you could have libido issues, erection issues, gyno issues. even lactating nipples/glands can develop and give you leaky nips!

and thats using it WITH test, if you think you are going to use deca only, the chance of having issues is ALOT higher.

Mind you I like deca. but not to run with out test and not for a first or second cycle.