second cycle gyno issues Help Needed!

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Hey everyone, so i started my second cycle that consists of test cup and dbol i have been running it for 3 in a half weeks now and i am experiencing some minor lumps underneath my nipples which i believe to be gyno i ran the same cycle about 8 months ago with no issues using adex at .25 mgs ed. i started out this cycle talking adex at .5mgs ed but i missed 2 days taking it on the weekend that just passed and since tuesday i have noticed these lumps are they going to get worse? should i stop my cycle?

first cycle 8 months ago

week 1 - 12 test @600mg per week
week 1- 4 dbol
AI ed at .25mg airimidex

current cycle is the same as above only i have upped adex to .5mg ed and i am currently on week 3 going to 4 on sunday

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Anyone ?

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Bump

 

[Wheyson]

Dont feel really comfortable giving advice since I am new to this game, and have lots more to learn. But my 2 cents (based on what I learned from the gurus here) would be:
Dont panic. Up your Adex (0.5mg - 1mg a day) & start taking high doses of Nolva (50mg ED), and see how you respond after a few days

We have the exact same cycle, but I started Adex at 0.5mg.
Another difference could be whether u are "big"?
The bigger u are, the more aromatisation, the more gyno-prone.

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

I'm kind of panicking here after looking around at some stuff just having someone responded is already making me feel a bit better, I do have nolva pills but I can only get them tomorrow, my biggest questions are should I get letro? Should I stop my cycle?

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

And I'm not really big I'm bigger now tho then I was on my first cycle, I'm sitting at about 185lbs 5'9.5" about 11-13% body fat ,

 

[Wheyson]

I'm kind of panicking here after looking around at some stuff just having someone responded is already making me feel a bit better, I do have nolva pills but I can only get them tomorrow, my biggest questions are should I get letro? Should I stop my cycle?

I asked the same "what if scenario"-questions, before I started my cycle. And I was told that you shouldnt panic and stop the cycle. Up the Adex and start Nolva, and see what happens next few days. Let us know, and then someone more knowlegable can let u know what do to from there on.

As far as Letro: I would say stay away from that at this point. Letro is not something to take easily and fool around with.

 

[El paja]

Take some fermada ( letrozole) 2.5 pills bro

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

Thanks for your input wheyson, I have till Sunday till my next test shot so I guess ill try your scenario , should I stop just the dbol for now ?

 

[Wheyson]

Take some fermada ( letrozole) 2.5 pills bro

Letro helps prevent gyno, but not to reverse it. So run your Adex to keep E2 in check and if u can start with Raloxifene to reverse gyno.

Elsevier
Beneficial effects of raloxifene and tamoxifen in the treatment of pubertal gynecomastia

Treatment of gynaecomastia with raloxifene. | BMJ
Endocrine treatment of physiological gynaecomastia

 

[Neverbigenough1979]

Some of us (me) are very Gyno prone even on 200 mgs test a week
Nolva kinda worked for a while then I went Adex and if you see it Letro will kill it but will also kill you estrogen completely and make you feel like shit

 

[Neverbigenough1979]

Some of us (me) are very Gyno prone even on 200 mgs test a week
Nolva kinda worked for a while then I went Adex and if you see it Letro will kill it but will also kill you estrogen completely and make you feel like shit

Letro will reverse Gyno

 

[Wheyson]

Thanks for your input wheyson, I have till Sunday till my next test shot so I guess ill try your scenario , should I stop just the dbol for now ?

Continue with Dbol, I would say. Dont think it will make so much of a difference if u stop. Because even if you stop now, it wont immediately leave ur system. And ur primary concern is E2 and not testosterone. As long as you control the aromatization into estrogen, you will be good.

 

[Wheyson]

Some of us (me) are very Gyno prone even on 200 mgs test a week
Nolva kinda worked for a while then I went Adex and if you see it Letro will kill it but will also kill you estrogen completely and make you feel like shit

Kills your joints as well

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

E2 being estrogen ?

 

[Wheyson]

E2 being estrogen ?

yepp

 

[clman8585]

Why deal with effects of crushed e2? Joints..feel like shit..Letro will just reduce your estro. Some existing estro may still bind.Take raloxifene on cycle e3d to keep estro from binding to your titties

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

So I upped my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) to1mg per day, taking 50mg of nolva starting today and I think I'm most likely shutting down my cycle already stopped my dbols

 

[Neverbigenough1979]

The dbol and everything is compounding. Clman is right crushing ur e2 is gonna stuck
Maybe drop dbol see if you see changes and maybe adjust your doses

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

So what would you suggest i do take letro?