Second Cycle

[GreenMonster]

Want to do a second cycle, really leaning towards Test E with Tren then finishing with Winstrol ......
Any thoughts or advice ????

 

[thetruepitbull]

Read some of the current posts, and all the stickies.

 

[DADAWG]

Want to do a second cycle, really leaning towards Test E with Tren then finishing with Winstrol ......
Any thoughts or advice ????

how can anyone possibly give you advice on a 2nd cycle when you didnt say what your 1st cycle was and what gains were made and retained.

 

[GreenMonster]

First cycle I ran
test e= 500mg/15 weeks
deca= 500mg/12 weeks
then stabalized with novedex
I am 27, 5'9, was 160 when I started. At the end on my cycle I was 195 with 14% body fat, slimmed down to 188 and keeping it at that and I slimmed down to 10% body fat.
I have a really hard time keeping weight on, I work construction and burn calories like nothing. My goal is to be 225 with 9%-11% body fat. My juice doctor wants me to run Tren=300mg a week for 12 weeks with Test E= 500mg a week for 15 weeks then finish with Winstrol Tabs to slim down my body fat.
I have been reading forums for the last month, and so many of you guys have so much experience and knowledge of all the different types of cycles. But everyone seems to say something a little different.
So please be easy on me and throw me some great advice, I know it is out there

 

[Bullseye Forever]

First cycle I ran
test e= 500mg/15 weeks
deca= 500mg/12 weeks
then stabalized with novedex
I am 27, 5'9, was 160 when I started. At the end on my cycle I was 195 with 14% body fat, slimmed down to 188 and keeping it at that and I slimmed down to 10% body fat.
I have a really hard time keeping weight on, I work construction and burn calories like nothing. My goal is to be 225 with 9%-11% body fat. My juice doctor wants me to run Tren=300mg a week for 12 weeks with Test E= 500mg a week for 15 weeks then finish with Winstrol Tabs to slim down my body fat.
I have been reading forums for the last month, and so many of you guys have so much experience and knowledge of all the different types of cycles. But everyone seems to say something a little different.
So please be easy on me and throw me some great advice, I know it is out there

what was your reactions to the deca dose of 500mg/week,did you have any sides,and when did you start noticing gains from it,im fixin to run some deca for the first time,and was just curious

 

[GreenMonster]

To be honest I didn't really notice any sides from the deca, all my boys told me it would be hard on my system, but I didn't find it hard at all. My sex drive was great, I had endless energy and it gave me a huge appetite. I did have sides from the test, hot flashes, breaking out on my back chest and shoulders.
I am not an expert in any way but I would strongly suggest not running deca without test. My bro did it and couldnt please the ladies for about 2 months after he finished. He had great gains but lost in other ways. Also he felt depressed alot.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

To be honest I didn't really notice any sides from the deca, all my boys told me it would be hard on my system, but I didn't find it hard at all. My sex drive was great, I had endless energy and it gave me a huge appetite. I did have sides from the test, hot flashes, breaking out on my back chest and shoulders.
I am not an expert in any way but I would strongly suggest not running deca without test. My bro did it and couldnt please the ladies for about 2 months after he finished. He had great gains but lost in other ways. Also he felt depressed alot.

thanks man,i always run test with my cycles,i was surprised when i seen your test dose:deca dose ratio,ive always heard to run a 2:1 ratio of test to deca,like 700mg test and 500mg deca

 

[GreenMonster]

Thats what I should have run, but I only got the proper info 3/4 of the way through my cycle and was having great results so I didn't want to play to much.
Press hard bro

 

[Sadista]

To be honest I didn't really notice any sides from the deca, all my boys told me it would be hard on my system, but I didn't find it hard at all. My sex drive was great, I had endless energy and it gave me a huge appetite. I did have sides from the test, hot flashes, breaking out on my back chest and shoulders.
I am not an expert in any way but I would strongly suggest not running deca without test. My bro did it and couldnt please the ladies for about 2 months after he finished. He had great gains but lost in other ways. Also he felt depressed alot.

how do you know the sides were from test and not deca since you never ran any of those compounds alone?

Either way drop the Winstrol (winny) itll kill your joints and the effects are just temporary...you will be nice and hard while on it but when its over...well its over. People just use it on very low body fat % b4 show to get the extra temporary cut

There have been info going around the forums that you will get better gains by running more tren than test but since itll be your first time i would do it the old school way since you dont want to go crazy on tren for the first time

 

[GreenMonster]

Thanks bro, your advice is much appreciated. My brother did Test alone and did deca alone, and I had the same sides as when he was on test so I just figured that what I was going through. What kind of sides should be to come from tren ?????