should i stay or should i go?

[funky]

hey guys first post here, im a 24 yr old male who walks around at about 58 kgs....
i have been lifting since i was about 19-20 and whilst having good strength gains never really put on much mass....i fight professionaly (well professional rules....i dont make much of a living from it) and do so at the lightest weight class i can find which is still 2-4 kgs heavier than i am. after some tough losses to bigger guys..(alot of guys will cut down to make 60kgs making them even bigger by fight time) i decided to do a cycle to bump my self up in wieght to be more competitive..but i'd be lying if i said i didnt wanna just stop being so small...

i was very sceptical of what my reaction would be to sterioids so i decided to take a very small dosage for my first time to see what results and effects it had on me.


i started my cycle with 1/2 half ml of 200mg test prope evry 3 days for 2 and 1/2 weeks..
then switched to 1ml of 200mg enth every 5-6 days for 5 weeks...with a half ml to wein my self off in my last shot....


that was a week ago... admittidly my diet was healthy but maybe lacked the volume to put on much mass but i put on about 4 kgs and hit 62kgs in that time with stuff all fat and what i pressume water retention to be...now tho..a week later i am down to 60kgs and starting to wish i stayed on it for longer....



my questions are... is it too late to maybe fit in another few weeks? like is the way i have cycled it going to mess with me if i jab another ml tonight and finish off the last few ml i have i the vile? i know there is always going to be some loss as far as gains go so i was aware i would go down abit but im starting to think i should have stayed on it longer to get the most out of it???

and should i take nolvadex for pct or was my dosage so low that i should just chill on it and get some blood work done in a few weeks?


if any of you guys could help me with some opinions i'd be greatful...feel free to get stuck into me if ive fucked this up at all either...i just need to know.. cheers guys.

 

[onotadaki]

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[Teutonic]

You 24 and weigh 127.6 ? How tall are you?
Your young..YET.. old enough to make your own call..
You may be a lil uninformed..AT THIS TIME. Stick around here..these dudes are great..
I think you ll be fine..I m sure your pecker is in good order and if what you said is true about about your roid intake you ll probly be fine w/ or w/o bloodwork..
Me ? I d run it..do nolva at the end of the bottle..but I m trying to get to a lean 96-98 kilo s bro..
A lot of folks say steroids are for building muscle and strength...only...not me.
I m all about recreational use..not abuse of anything you want to..( I think crack should be free for instance )..for what ever reason..you want to..bit of an anarchist and all that..
Overall I think you could achieve your goal with or without..
That was totally useless to you huh ?

 

[snigg]

hey guys first post here, im a 24 yr old male who walks around at about 58 kgs....
i have been lifting since i was about 19-20 and whilst having good strength gains never really put on much mass....i fight professionaly (well professional rules....i dont make much of a living from it) and do so at the lightest weight class i can find which is still 2-4 kgs heavier than i am. after some tough losses to bigger guys..(alot of guys will cut down to make 60kgs making them even bigger by fight time) i decided to do a cycle to bump my self up in wieght to be more competitive..but i'd be lying if i said i didnt wanna just stop being so small...

i was very sceptical of what my reaction would be to sterioids so i decided to take a very small dosage for my first time to see what results and effects it had on me.


i started my cycle with 1/2 half ml of 200mg test prope evry 3 days for 2 and 1/2 weeks..
then switched to 1ml of 200mg enth every 5-6 days for 5 weeks...with a half ml to wein my self off in my last shot....


that was a week ago... admittidly my diet was healthy but maybe lacked the volume to put on much mass but i put on about 4 kgs and hit 62kgs in that time with stuff all fat and what i pressume water retention to be...now tho..a week later i am down to 60kgs and starting to wish i stayed on it for longer....

my questions are... is it too late to maybe fit in another few weeks? like is the way i have cycled it going to mess with me if i jab another ml tonight and finish off the last few ml i have i the vile? i know there is always going to be some loss as far as gains go so i was aware i would go down abit but im starting to think i should have stayed on it longer to get the most out of it???

and should i take nolvadex for pct or was my dosage so low that i should just chill on it and get some blood work done in a few weeks?

if any of you guys could help me with some opinions i'd be greatful...feel free to get stuck into me if ive fucked this up at all either...i just need to know.. cheers guys.

is this thread for real??

I m all about recreational use..not abuse of anything you want to..( I think crack should be free for instance )..for what ever reason..you want to..bit of an anarchist and all that..

 

[Teutonic]

I knew that would generate a response..
Lighten up Snigg..just a little fun..
And I believe only crack-heads would use the shit..abusively--and-- eventually die off..thereby alleviating society of their kind...heroin, coke heads etc..some personal choices are fatal..you live or die by your choice.
I used to use aas to compete..as an amateur mind you..now it s with myself, my crew and the mirror..and cuz I want to...
Sure they help me in my work,..some.
I don t make a living , bb-ing, powerlifting, mma, NFL etc..so I d say I m a recreational user..hobbies are recreational..
And this dude asked....I don t push anyone to do anything....but he s gonna do what he wants..
If my politics/ sociol views offend you that was not my intent...but rest assured that I wont lose sleep over what offends you.
Why do you use them ?

 

[snigg]

I knew that would generate a response..
Lighten up Snigg..just a little fun..
And I believe only crack-heads would use the shit..abusively--and-- eventually die off..thereby alleviating society of their kind...heroin, coke heads etc..some personal choices are fatal..you live or die by your choice.
I used to use aas to compete..as an amateur mind you..now it s with myself, my crew and the mirror..and cuz I want to...
Sure they help me in my work,..some.
I don t make a living , bb-ing, powerlifting, mma, NFL etc..so I d say I m a recreational user..hobbies are recreational..
And this dude asked....I don t push anyone to do anything....but he s gonna do what he wants..
If my politics/ sociol views offend you that was not my intent...but rest assured that I wont lose sleep over what offends you.
Why do you use them ?

You're views did not offend me. However I think you are just a bit naive regarding crack and heroin use. Those crack and heroin addicts will be the ones robbing your wife while she's loading groceries into your car, or emptying your home while you and your wife are on vacation. There is a lot more to it than just the using until they die off. They need to feed their addictions, in turn they rob and steal in order to get that crack.

and I use AAS because I am vain and want to be bigger and look better.

 

[Teutonic]

Cool...then we are on the same page with roids..Vanity driven ...a kindred of kind.
And I quess I should have used more cautious when making such a politically incorrect statement...and telling a 130 pounder to go ahead..at least he s on test only and fighting..
This ain t a political/ sociol forum so ...I ll end it with...I wish Hard -Core drug addicts could get ALL they want so they would O D , or widdle away in peace......I ll not miss them..and I m tired of paying for re hab w/ my taxes.
onotakai..sorry for fkn your thread...If you wish to remain in your weight class you dont need roids..If your gonna do em..do em here..learn here, ask questions and I promise these guys will hook you up with better answer s than the one I gave..
How TALL are you ?

 

[funky]

im 5'5 Teutonic.... and im not itchy and my nipples are at the same puffyness as usual ..... i tried to get as much info as i could from talking to people i know...but every one seems to have different ideas on gear and what to do with it.... i got contrasting views so with the knowlage i had i thought i;d just keep the course small and short...guess i should have hit up a forum earlier huh?

thanks for the feed back....so i have to wait 12 weeks before going again? whats the best amount of time to be on it? the aromatisation factor (sp) kinda freaked me out..i didnt wanna go too long..

 

[funky]

ttt any one???

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

i will try and help-but i am confused-are you still injecting? if not when did you stop?

how long have you been on the cycle? what PCT meds do u have

 

[funky]

no i stopped injecting a week and a half ago i was on it for 8 weeks all up.... iv got nolvadex and pregnol (sp) to bring the nuts back..... ive heard that i dont need to do novla unless i get signs of gyno which i havent.... so yeah im slightly confused as to what to do/ how much of a lay off i need before i can do a heavier cycle.

i tried doing a small cycle for my first to see what it did to me side effect wise and results wise.... yeah im a thick noob but you gotta start somewhere...and i figured its better to ask for help than to sit there doing nothing....cheers mate.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well you will need the nolva-start it exactly 14 days after the last inject of test

run it @ 40mg week 1

40 week 2

20 week 3

20 week 4

its too late for the hcg-besides 8 weeks of low dose test prob wont have you shut down too much.

then when your nolva is done use the next 14 weeks after that to plan your next cycle-get diet in order and have good workout routine for mass building

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

hell just go ahead and start it now if its been a week and a half

 

[funky]

well you will need the nolva-start it exactly 14 days after the last inject of test

run it @ 40mg week 1

40 week 2

20 week 3

20 week 4

its too late for the hcg-besides 8 weeks of low dose test prob wont have you shut down too much.

then when your nolva is done use the next 14 weeks after that to plan your next cycle-get diet in order and have good workout routine for mass building

cheers for the advice...im onto it....and working out a new diet as we speak....looks like im gunna be buying a fuck load of cottage cheese!