Shoulder pain! Should i stop my cycle?

[mankind_230]

Im still on 2nd week of my sust-deca stack cycle and i got an inflammation in the shoulder region just above the pectorals...i used a topical cream and oral NSAIDS...the pain reduced considerably..but when i do deep movements, i still feel pain..

I can bench press but i cannot lower the barbell more than 3 inch from the pectorals...
when i do pull ups also, i can fully get the stretch as it hurts..
The only things i can do comfortably are isolation exercises for biceps, triceps and lower body..
Should i stop my cycle and restart it after the pain subsides completely??

If is stick to isolation exercises for chest, back, etc, will the muscles grow? or will that be a waste of gear?

PS..its my first cycle

 

[Irentat]

You are not even seeing the full effects of Deca yet at 2 weeks. Lots of research into androgen based steroids helping the healing process. I personally would keep going and work around it but maintain flexibility and some lighter lifts in that region. Deca's full benefit is seen when you stress the area you are trying to heal...seriously. However, to be thorough, have you had it checked out for a tear?

FYI, I got ON Deca because I was having pains in my body. One of them was back pain that I had for a decade. I was only able to lift 50% of my max during that whole 10 years. Pain started to subside after 2-4 weeks and after being on Deca for 10 weeks, the pain is gone and I lift like I used to in my 20's.

 

[mankind_230]

Ok....till deca doesnt kick in, i should lift less poundage and use perfect lifting technique...will i be able to still gain muscle using lighter weights? or worse...will i lose muscles?
also, if i do isolation exercises only with biceps and triceps, will they still grow?

 

[Teutonic]

You ll be fne dude...train as you can..if you watch your form, mind your diet, and don t aggravate the injury that is..
And go to a doc if your as concerned as you appear to be..shoulder s are complicated..lot s going on in there...

 

[Polynikes666]

Yep...Injuries while on AAS are just like anything on AAS. Pretty much the same, but amplified to varying degrees.

Additionally, try to avoid masking pain with NSAIDS, especially while "on". I learned this the hard way a long time ago.

Poly

 

[mankind_230]

Anybody can list some upper body exercises that i can perform without engaging my shoulder/ rotator cuff?

Also, am i supposed to stop all delt exercises?

 

[Irentat]

Yep...Injuries while on AAS are just like anything on AAS. Pretty much the same, but amplified to varying degrees.

Additionally, try to avoid masking pain with NSAIDS, especially while "on". I learned this the hard way a long time ago.

Poly

Poly is correct. NSAIDS actually stop part of the healing process also.

Again, as I have stated, you need to stress the area that is to be healed, that is how Deca works best. If this is only daily stretching, that is all you can do and you at least see more benefit than nothing.

 

[Polynikes666]

Anybody can list some upper body exercises that i can perform without engaging my shoulder/ rotator cuff?

Not that I can think of, but can you perform body weight exercises? If you haven't done a ball busting push up/pull up routine in a while, you're in for quite a "treat".

Poly

 

[mankind_230]

Hmmm...so if i understand well, i need to keep doing my bench presses, incline presses, etc and i should also keep working the shoulders..
Forcing through the pain wont tear or worsen my rotator cuff?

 

[Polynikes666]

No. But if you can continue to work at a lower intensity without pain, do so.

Poly

 

[mankind_230]

i was wondering..if i do bench press(horizontal n decline) with shoulder blades in proper position but i bring the bar only halfway down(level at which my arm is arallel to floor)...will it work my chest enough?

also is there anyway to do the delt exercises without affecting the rotator cuff?

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I'm thinking you jumped the gun on running a cycle. You obviously don't have enough training experience to be using these compounds. I pain is the game working threw the pain. No offense intended here bro but you couldn't have trained threw a plateau without some serious pain. Your body isn't tuned to use these compounds. You going to put on a bunch of water and fat unless you drop weight and go high set high reps. good luck

 

[mankind_230]

i understand your point...ive been through these pains you are talking about and ive hit my plateau...I can still easily push and press through this pain without any problem..My only concern is if it will make my rotator cuff issue worse or not. i dont want to damage my cuff severely and lose months or years of training.

 

[Cheappinz]

no, don't force through the pain...pain is there for a reason. its a WARNING.
I'm a PT and I can tell you when there's inflammation, there's swelling filling up a space that would otherwise have free space to move. This is where "impingement" and such diagnoses come from...
Continue exercising but do this:
1. Choose exercises that are below shoulder level..this will allow you to use your shoulder with the maximum amount of joint space available..You don't want to move in a position that causes repeated bone on tendon contact.
2. exercises that allow you to keep the upper part of your arm fixed or supported will help
3. Ice for atleast 20 minutes after exercise. Medical books will say it takes 20 minutes to penetrate deep enough to do any good. If you're a big thick muscular guy, I'm envisioning a shoulder like a bull's which would require longer for any benefit.
4. every day life: posture is actually more important than you think. If you're slumped over, it changes the position of rest for your shoulder joint. sitting or standing tall/upright will help with the posture and this will help not aggravate your existing condition.

 

[zedhed]

OK, I have crap shoulders and various other age related issues. Here is how I deal with them.
For bench press I use saw horses so that I dont past the point where my elbows go past my shoulderblades on the bench. Also for bench you should have the weight over the lower ribs, not over your pecs. This will help your shoulders.
For squats I do box squats as I have knee injuries to deal with.
Also for my shoulders I have recently found that I have to do pull ups. I just have to do them to keep relativly pain free shoulders. Dont know why but it works for me.
Have been working on dips. Cant add weight yet but can at least do them. Dont go too deep. Do what is comfortable.
So do you see the pattern here? You do what you can. Maybe it isnt the full range of motion. But if you cant then you cant. Better to get something out of it then nothing at all cuz you cant do the full range.
Good luck bro!

 

[zedhed]

OOPS! forgot to add, take 1 TBS olive oil in the monring and another at night. Also take your fish oil supps, at least 2000mgs/ day. This help me more then glucosamine chondroitin. And its cheaper! And drink lots of water!

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

hi!
i got a critical injury on my right shouder 2 year ago.
i did all possible to heal it.
i spent so mush money on physician, massage specialist, injection and other things...
finaly after 3 month the pain started to decrease.
in this time, i stopped all AAS. i stayed 11 months without steroids at all.
i made train though, i took my time to profit and cut... byke, running, hard long walking trail.
in the same time i was working on my job, i gone on a pretty healthy way, my food were like never before, i did sauna, i heal my sleep, my way of life to, wake up early in morning, and at bed early in eveing.

it worth for it, cause i started with a better base.

believe me, save your shoulder and do not over train it. see a kinesist, make a lost massage, see if you don't need something new in your diet, like cissus quadrangularis, organic silicium, VIt B5, mineral completemtation, HMB ( hydroxy-methyl-butarate)
make a lot of stretchs, and long Thaishi trainning. it will help alot on this.
don't care about lost of muscles... it's noting, you will re-gain it faster after.

growing need sometimes sacrifices.

and you know how it says : NO PAIN, NO GAIN.

good luck, check my thread about it.

 

[Turtleneck1971]

i've had surgery on my right rotator cuff twice and I missed 6 months of work each time. I would probably stay on my cycle and run it out but I would definately not go to heavy on any exercise that works the shoulder and especially Military Presses. Good Luck bro and get an MRI on that soon.

 

[mankind_230]

uhum...thanks for all the help...
Concerning the shoulders, you think it would be wise to do db presses or military presses? or is it better i stick with db front raises?

 

[RA64]

uhum...thanks for all the help...
Concerning the shoulders, you think it would be wise to do db presses or military presses? or is it better i stick with db front raises?

Do the exercise that hurts your sholuder the least.

This is training 101, how long have you been training?