Shredding Cycle?

[sasquash]

Hey everyone,

I could use some knowledgeable advice. I am thinking of starting a cycle soon and these are the supplements that most likely I will have to work with: 2 cases of HgH, 2 bottles of Anavar, 1 10ml bottle of Propionate ( probably will take 15 shots in total; sharing 3 bottles with a buddy), and 20ml of some 50g Winstrol (winny) (that in my opinion is probably not 100%). I took one cycle last year of some propionate and QV Winstrol (winny) just to see what it would do and I was pleased with the results, though i never reached maximum rippability around my gut.

I really do not want to get too swol because Im already a big fucker naturally, but I do want more muscle definition, increase chest, and get some abs, all while avoiding acne. I am 6' 3", 255lbs, with probably 28% bf, and the fat is mostly in my abdominal area, but not much. I know that they say Hgh should be taken after age 30, when normal levels begin to decrease, but I just want to shoot it into my gut so that shit dissappears. The test I was told was good to supplement the Hgh, and propionate is the least bloating test I think. I also heard that the anavar should be taken with a lil creatine monohydrate, but again I dont know cus of the excess water retention. And the bottle of Winstrol (winny) is probably not legit like the QV, but I know it does have some effects cus a friend tried the same bottle; I was thinking of ending my cycle with it. THis is my second cycle only. Please advise.

1. They say you can alternate shots of Hgh on sides of bellybutton, directly above and each oblique?

2. How should I pyramid in and out, and at what times should I begin/end each supplement? ie. how many weeks extend cycle?

3. In general, what do you think for a novice shredding cycle? Add anything?

4. What post supplements (nolvadex?) should be taken to bring body back to balance and to keep gains as much as possible?

Alot of ?, but please advise on known about issues. Thanks for your time.

 

[Skarhead1]

Dude you can lose fat with any cycle , any combination out there. Training/Conditioning/Diet is gonna get you the results. the juice just aids.

 

[PARKER27]

At 28%bf it wouldn't be a bad idea to just strictly focus on your diet. Why risk the sides to yeild results that are more than achievable without Steroids.

You can take a pallet of drugs, but without proper dieting you'll lack the decrease in body fat that you're looking for. Perhaps if any at all.

Post the diet you were planning to run while on this cycle.... and hit us straight; otherwise you'll suffer.

 

[sasquash]

Thanks for the replies. I know that diet is everything. I was planning a 5-6 meal a day diet, 50g protein/ 45g carbs/ 10g fat per meal; and training 3 days on 1 day off with cardio 4 times a week at least. Im doing the cycle because I want to get that lean muscle structure, and bring out the muscles on my muscles sooner. What do you guys know about the supplements and the amounts i am thinking of taking?

 

[DarkWarrior]

FYInfo....

Just to help ya with a bit faster info on the subject, the little search box at the top of the website........if you type hgh in there you will get a bunch of previously discussed articles in forum form to go through. \
Otherwise preparing your body for the added impact of a cycle would be very advisable as stated previously.

Would just save the hgh imo for when you really need it, doing a simple test cycle with either tren or winstrol added in would suffice, you will be amazed at how fast the fat melts when you set up a consistent routine and stick to it.
Just adjusting your diet , ie: no food after 7:00 pm or only protein would make a difference. We get fat very simply because we dont burn the same amount of calories we take in. Everyone wants the easy route and doesnt want to actually do anything to make the difference. Not saying this is you but keep it simple and straightforward and you will accomplish more.

 

[gymlion77]

Personally since you have not really done many cycles.....you did one with some Winstrol (winny) to cut up. I would recomend that you try using Test by itself yes you can use the propinate but if you can from your buddy get some long acting test like enth, use the prop to kick off the cycle for the first 3-4 weeks so that the enth has some time to get built up in the system. I really think for what you are trying to do that test would be a good idea. Yes the other chemicals are good for cutting but you will respond great with the test. If you keep diet clean, as you said you will and train properly you will lose body fat and gain muscle and feel great. Test is known to give a euphoric (spelling) feeling and I think you will like this allot.

Again try just a test cycle if you want to toss in the anavar do it at the last 3weeks of the cycle to help harden you up but I think it is unneeded.

 

[shivsean]

Stick with short esters (Test Prop, Tren Ace) for cutters, IMO.

But like many have said, diet is key. Start busting some ass on cardio. Clean up your diet.

You may want to use Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) at this point to preserve body mass while resrticting your calories.

Maybe try clen and T3 in cojunction with Test Prop 100mg EOD and Winstrol (winny) 50mg ED. Drop calories to 500 below maintenance OF THE WEIGHT YOU WANT TO BE.

If you are dead set on HGH for fat loss, try the HGH Frag 176 - 191. Has the sequence of the HGH directly responsible for fat loss and you will save an assload of funds.

 

[Aztech]

28% bf?...you might want to be worrying more about cardio and diet than which combo of gear to run.

 

[sasquash]

Thanks for the replies. I started hgh today.