Sleep apnea and TEstosterone.
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GilaMonstaXXX
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Not sure, but are you overweight?? If you are and you have sleep apnea it may improve with balancing your estro.
Megatron28
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Yes. Sleep apnea can lower your testosterone. Seek treatment.
jomamma007
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Depending on your age and testosterone level.
If you're under 30 I'd work on nailing down your sleep apnea, then see where your test levels/symptoms fall before jumping on TRT.
Also TRT Can make your SLEEP APNEA WORSE, know that.
Regardless you need to fix your sleep apnea. If you just got on trt you'd still have symptoms because of it.
Handle that first and then contemplate TRT. Also rule out thyroid/adrenal problems first.
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unkazra1
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I sold life insurance for a few years. Sleep apnea is one of the more (newer) common medical conditions that cause life insurance companies to "worry" (which equates to reasoning for charging you more money for your life insurance). They relate it to heart conditions or a precursor to heart conditions. I had a lot clients with Sleep Apnea. Most were overweight and didn't exercise. This contributes to low T. Controlling your sleep apnea will only give you more energy on a daily basis, from an oxygen standpoint, not a testosterone standpoint. If you use this energy to get into the gym for cardio and weights, you will bring up your test levels naturally. At that point, if your levels don't come up, then try TRT. Your CPAP alone will not raise your test levels though. It's the activity from your newly found energy that will do that. Hope that helps bro.
Alpin
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working out and raising T levels are way over rated....imo
If working out was so effective at raising T....you'd see less guys on TRT.
Sleep apnea has a lot of causes and a lot of health symptoms. If you have sleep apnea, losing weight may make it less severe, but treating it won't really bring your test levels up. As you get older, it will naturaly get worse, no way around this. Going on testosterone will lead to likely body fat loss, but will also mature the soft tissue that is causing the sleep apnea.
My advice is to get a machine, start using it and simply get used to it, as you will be using it for the rest of your life. There is no surgery as of yet that cures it, except a tracheotomy...
The machine you will want to get is one that automatically raises and lowers the pressure to your needs. This is great because if you are going to be on testosterone, any changes will simply be taken care of by the machine.
I pin everyday for diabetes, every other day with test, and every night I use my cpap.... not that hard.
My advice is to get a machine, start using it and simply get used to it, as you will be using it for the rest of your life. There is no surgery as of yet that cures it, except a tracheotomy...
The machine you will want to get is one that automatically raises and lowers the pressure to your needs. This is great because if you are going to be on testosterone, any changes will simply be taken care of by the machine.
I pin everyday for diabetes, every other day with test, and every night I use my cpap.... not that hard.
Good info. Needed that
Excellent information thanks for that
Apollon, so are you saying that at my age, 44, even if I get the apnea under control that I wouldn't,t be able to raise my T with TRT?
Alpin
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I been on the CPAP machine for 3.5 years now. Keep in mind I was on TRT for 2.5 yrs no hcg while on.
I never knew I had sleep apnea. My case was "highly severe".
I was never really obese...worked out, lived an active life and used TRT which kept my metabolism higher.
Came off TRT, GP told me to try and see if this was the problem that was lowering it in the first place.
I was never really "low" in T but had a lot of the symptoms of "low T"....my levels sat in 500 ng/dl range but a TRT clinic told me I would benefit from TRT....my BIO T was mediocre for my age according to him.
I wanted to see how my endogenous T will respond if I stopped TRT. Used CPAP for the 16 months off TRT, my TT never got over 288 ng/dl...one test it was 384 ng/dl...but I was using low dose ADEX as well while off.
Free T was below range.
You will feel better rested with CPAP machine but I'm not sure if it will "raise" Endogenous T.
You might very well benefit from it, I don't know.
Megatron28
Moderator
Test injections would raise your testosterone levels regardless of whether or not you have sleep apnea. Two things to think about:
If you do TRT and raise your testosterone, you could still feel lousy if you are not getting good sleep. Sleep is VERY important.
Poor sleep may be lowering your testosterone. Using a cpap to get better sleep may help increase your natural testosterone levels. But it depends on what is causing it. If you have primary hypogonadism for example, using a cpap will not affect your testosterone.
Sleep Apnea Question
I am in a similar situation, I had symptoms of Sleep Apnea for years but it got worse after I gained about 30lbs of muscle using pro-hormones on and off for about 2yrs with no pct. I was told that I did not need any (former pro BB). I stopped taking them cold turkey due to sides, and I just found out a few months ago that I have sleep apnea, and looking back it explains a lot. Like why I could not make any gains past 185lbs muscle wise. I did a pct protocol last year before cpap, thinking that pro-hormones caused my low T, it worked (total over 620) LH11, was peaked at 22. I am not 215 (getting leaner) and my free T is up by about 15%, good erections but total is still below 250ng (LH 3). I was hoping that my levels would be higher by now, but I think my body is still getting used to having good sleep for a change. Recently I cannot sleep more than 6 hours before I get up and feel rested, but know that I should be getting 8-9hrs. I have read that this is normal and will require more time. I have more detailed numbers, but I am wondering how long I should wait before throwing in the towel and going on TRT? I am thinking that in another year my natural levels do not rise that I may use straight T shots or use low amounts of Clomid 12.5mg kept me around 630ng, but SHGB and Prolactin were still a bit high. I believe that the reason I felt initially better on Pro-hormones was due to sleep apnea causing lower T levels, and most likely why I did not recover naturally after coming off of them. My father also has severe apnea, but he is also really fat and does not exercise (his T levels are within range). Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
I am in a similar situation, I had symptoms of Sleep Apnea for years but it got worse after I gained about 30lbs of muscle using pro-hormones on and off for about 2yrs with no pct. I was told that I did not need any (former pro BB). I stopped taking them cold turkey due to sides, and I just found out a few months ago that I have sleep apnea, and looking back it explains a lot. Like why I could not make any gains past 185lbs muscle wise. I did a pct protocol last year before cpap, thinking that pro-hormones caused my low T, it worked (total over 620) LH11, was peaked at 22. I am not 215 (getting leaner) and my free T is up by about 15%, good erections but total is still below 250ng (LH 3). I was hoping that my levels would be higher by now, but I think my body is still getting used to having good sleep for a change. Recently I cannot sleep more than 6 hours before I get up and feel rested, but know that I should be getting 8-9hrs. I have read that this is normal and will require more time. I have more detailed numbers, but I am wondering how long I should wait before throwing in the towel and going on TRT? I am thinking that in another year my natural levels do not rise that I may use straight T shots or use low amounts of Clomid 12.5mg kept me around 630ng, but SHGB and Prolactin were still a bit high. I believe that the reason I felt initially better on Pro-hormones was due to sleep apnea causing lower T levels, and most likely why I did not recover naturally after coming off of them. My father also has severe apnea, but he is also really fat and does not exercise (his T levels are within range). Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
Megatron28
Moderator
If you just got on the cpap, maybe give it 3 months and see if you are feeling better. And get new blood work done. Also try to make other beneficial lifestyle changes such as diet.
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