Slight Gyno problems, any advice appreciated.

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Maroon Warrior

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Hello, I am a first time poster. I can almost hear the groans!
However let me say that I have done some research before posting on here and have read many threads on the subject I will ask about so haven't just posted without making a fairly decent effort in regards answering my own question. Righty ho here goes sports fans ....

I am a healthy 38 year old chap and have been using AAS for about 4 years now without any issue whatsoever. I did alot of research before doing so unlike a great deal of people I know. If I'm sticking something in my body I want to know everything about it. A few weeks ago I started to get that tell tail 'tingling' in my nipples which is obviously the onset of Gyno. This started about 5 weeks after the end of my cycle. I immediately started taking Tomoxifen but it hasn't seemed to sort the problem out.

My usual cycle is this

1 - 10 weeks - All Test 350
2 - 8 weeks - Dbol 30mg a day
Week 11 - x3 HGC jabs .... 1 every 3 days at 1500iu (tingling started 5 weeks after finishing my HGC)

I do not take Tamoxifen, clomid or anything else after my HGC jabs as I have never needed to. Maybe this is why I have my issue? which is a very slightly puffy left nipple. My girlfriend hasn't noticed it so it can't be that bad but to be honest gents it has worried me. Like I say I have just finished a full course of tamoxifen which has not solved the issue. The tamoxifen tablets are took were 40mg a day for 7 days then 20mg a day for 14 days and nothing. My nipples are less 'tingly' but still sensitive, the left nipple is slightly puffy.


I would like to continue taking AAS as I can honestly say the benefits I have had have been fantastic. I imagine this is because I train hard, eat right and use AAS sensibly! However that being said this little issue has worried me to such an extent I am considering not doing so again.

Where to go from here, any advice on solving my problem and preventing re-occurence would be genuinely appreciated. I have read nightmare threads about surgery ...... I don not want that to be me!

Advice please.

And finally, happy New year!

Maroon Warrior.

P.S - I may not be able to check this thread until tomorrow (New Years day) so if anyone kindly answers this evening and I do not answer it is because I am working not that I am being ignorant of people who have kindly taken the time to reply and help me out!
 
Matt many thanks for reply and advice .... I think it was a case of not using Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before as why pay for something if it isn't required? .....
Alot of blokes say to use Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at the end of a cycle and not during ........ I guess it depends on a persons body as everyone is different. I just hope that 'my issue' disappears. I'm a bit pissed off this minor bump ;-) in my schedule has occured ...

Can I ask why you believe it best to use Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a cycle and not at the end? .... and also can I ask in regards my swelling would you leave it and see if things correct themselves or would you do another Aromatase inhibitor (AI) course ... I have only ever used tamoxifen ...... not sure about clomid or any of the others .... not sure which is best/stronger etc etc
 
hardtarget said:
You SHOULD do more research.... you NEED to use an Anti Estrogen.... stick around you'll get THERE.
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You are indeed correcct like the poster before I should do more research which is exactly what I have been doing and why I am posting on this site to further my learning!

When you say Anti Estrogen I take it you mean A.I? ........ and would you use this during or at the end of a cycle ....?
 
clman8585 said:
Ai during cycle, serm at the end for pct. You need to do mote research, you are not ready.
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clman8585 - Fair do's no argument in regards more learning required. I am trying!
Your post also short, sweet and to the point was actually quite helpful and I thank you for it. At present I only use Tamoxifen when I have an issue. I will now use this product regardless at the end of every cycle. I believe Tamoxifen is a SERM ....??

However I also understand that it is very beneficial and probably best (prevention being better than the cure!) to us an A.I during a cycle .... as suggested by yourself.

I will research A.I and look at the best product ....... Letrozole has been mentioned but I do not like the look of the side effects so would prefer to try something else first ......... any suggestions??

I take it I'm now on the right track about what to take and when??

I found this previous thread explains things very well ....... the 11th post down by 'CognitiveNutrition' being especially helpful
forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4972333&page=1
 
Maybe the tingling is from the HGC? i would rather rn somethig during cycle instead of HGC jabs, personaly anyway
 
Matt0071 said:
yeah run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle bro, easy as that
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Matt what A.I do you recommend running during a cycle ..??
I used tamoxifen at the end of my cycle but that is a SERM... not sure what A.I to use during the cycle. I have heard of Letro but that has side effects like lack of sex drive and depression which is not for me! What Aromatase inhibitor (AI) do you use?
 
arimedex or anastrozole will do the job. I would get some letro before you start another cycle and try to rid of your puffiness asap. It may not work but if it dont your only out a little cash.
 
Losway said:
Maybe the tingling is from the HGC? i would rather rn somethig during cycle instead of HGC jabs, personaly anyway
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Losway Thanks for reply .... I will now for sure run something during my cycle ...... I was under the impression that if you used A.I during your cycle that it is still best to use HGC jabs to 'kickstart' your nuts back into action?

So would taking A.I during my course mean I don't have to take my usual 3 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) jabs??
 
jonesfarm said:
arimedex or anastrozole will do the job. I would get some letro before you start another cycle and try to rid of your puffiness asap. It may not work but if it dont your only out a little cash.
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Jonesfarm many thanks for reply .... arimedex and anastrozole are they same thing aren't they? .... I have read an article on wikipedia stating that Anastrozole gave better results than tomoxifen when tested over a 5 year period ... but that was in regards breast cancer not Gyno .... however i'll give it a try next time (using as an A.I after a cycle) instead of the Tamoxifen & see if I too get better results ..... by better results i mean not getting in the same position i am now again!

I'll get hold of some letro in the meantime and try it out .... i'll be carful as the side effects include loss of sex drive and depression which sounds a but crappy ......... not how i want the new year to begin!
 
Its the same thing. They work great for your issues and yes keep using the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). It will keep you rocking dude!!!!
 
everything comes with side effcts, and every body is different, with that said, Adex works great for me during cycle, with nolva/clomid after cycle, i have only run letro wih tren and still then only as needed, listen to your body smetimes the less and the simpler works better,
 
the sweling com with pain? itchyness or sensitivity? or just puffy? anyway like chip used to say have sme Letro handy for as soon as you feel them nipple monsters appear
 
I also have a similar issue, but I'm off cycle now. I have been looking at research chem labs to get some letro to try and counteract this asap. But I'm curious if they are legit enough to work, anyone know? Also how about the same for other AI's, or SERMs from research chem labs? If you have a recommendation feel free to PM me so I can get it ordered asap. Thanks fellas.
 
wouldn't be either anastrozole or exemastane be the way to go during cycle to prevent any unwanted surprises or at least being able to counter them?
from my knowledge as little as .25mg ed or .5mg eod can be effective.obviously greatly depending on your dosage of the cycle
 
I know this is a crazy bump ......... However I'm at the end of my tether and could do with a little more advice. If people are able to read this post and follow up replies in it entirety great, if not heres a brief low down ...

In Dec 2012 I got mild gyno by way of slightly puffy nipples. This was way after I'd finished a 10 week cycle. That cycle 10 weeks of test 350 and dbol at 30mg a day for 8 weeks. For post cycle therapy (pct) I used HCG x3 jabs a day at 1500iu a day over a period of 6 days and tamoxifen) for 3 weeks.

I used letro as recommended on here and the issue all but dissapeared. However 6 weeks ago it came back as it did before but this time with a lump (which is very tender when pressed) underneath my left nipple. I have no donw another cycle since the last one so why has this occured?! I can only put this down to a recent operation which was conducted under general anesthetic. My thinking is that its messed up my hormones. But this sounds too unusual to be true ...

I immediately started using letro again which I didn't want due to the side effects and depsite using it for 2 weeks now at 1.25mg a day the issue although not worsening has remained.

Any advice would be appreciated as this is getting ridiculous now.
 
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