So I am shutdown and I saw a doc and I have a problem

Androgenicx

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A little while ago after a long time of not training (4 yrs) I decided to get back in. After 2 mo I decided to juice.

Started at 375mg test per week. Finished 3 weeks and suddenly had deep vein thrombosis and was admitted to the hospital for a few weeks. Was bedridden after. This is in India.

Here I buy my test from the pharmacy direct and buy what I need the day I need it. Pct as well

Since I was in a hospital I couldn't do my pct. Since I was bedridden for 4 months after I couldn't go to the pharma (had relatives taking care of me and legit couldn't disclose my use or need of pct) I couldnt pct the 3 weeks I was on.

Got my test and free test,checked yesterday and both are low. Less than half the minimum reference value.

Spoke to an endocrinologist and got a shock. He says he will not treat for 2 years since the steroid use and only will offer treatment if after 2 years my body does not start producing properly.

This is too long a wait and gear or not I can't train naturally on this amount of test either. I am going to have to self medicate.

He told me use of Serms works only after a cycle because it takes use of the already completely shutdown test production. He also told me hcg is a temporary cure and doesn't completely bring back your test.

I am not sure what to do any advice or suggestions.

Edit also have to say this would have been my 3rd cycle. First was test e at 375 for 16 weeks next one was methdrol test prop at 500 and tren a.
 
What are your numbers?

Sounds like you need to run PCT again. Try and get your HPTA restarted. Make sure you use a good restart protocol.
 
What are your numbers?

Sounds like you need to run PCT again. Try and get your HPTA restarted. Make sure you use a good restart protocol.

Total test 1.22 ng/ml range 2.8 - 11
Free test 35.4 pg/ml range 50- 210

What do you mean by restart protocol?

Getting Fish, TSH, prolactin and LH tomorrow

I guess I could try pct again is what he said about hcg true I could run that too with clomid

Getting total test once again in fasting
 
Restart is PCT. In your case though, I would consider this more of an attempt to Restart your HPTA since your cycle was so long ago. That can change how you approach the restart.

Don't run hCG and SERMs at the same time for your restart. hCG is suppressive to the HPTA. You don't want to suppress it when you are trying to get it working again.

Let's see the rest of your blood work when it comes in. That will dictate to some degree what you should do next.
 
i agree with tron...

youre going to need to run hcg for a bit then run clomid for a bit..

you shoudlnt' have disclosed steroid use to your doc.. that was your first mistake
 
Been using albuterol for the first time for a couple of days before these tests. Read that beta 2 agonists can cause prolactin increase. It was for like 2 days could it be causing it
 
Been using albuterol for the first time for a couple of days before these tests. Read that beta 2 agonists can cause prolactin increase. It was for like 2 days could it be causing it

I have seen that reported as a possible aide effect, but my understanding is that it is an extremely low probability. And given you only took it for two days, it seems even more unlikely.
 
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