i made a thread that no one has even read so im guessing someone in here can help me out please...I was weighed 185 around 2 months ago...I started jogging and taking a fat burner and got down to 167... yes i have cycled before, I just haven't done it the right way in like 5 years bc I was young and dumb...I've been taking 400 mgs of test e for the past three weeks and anything between 25 to 100 mg of oral winstrol for a week and I love the winstrol...lots of energy and strength...I HAVE done my research but obviously not enough...but I've been reading all these forums of people gaining 15-30 lbs they claim in the first month...I do not want to gain that much muscle...I mean I do but not all at one time...I just weighed myself and I'm 173...how long does the test e take to kick in? The winstrol has done more in a week than the test has done in a month...weight wise...I can tell I've got a bit thicker but it discourages me I haven't got as much weight gain as I want...I would rather look better than weigh more any day..but it just makes me nervous reading these forums about ppl gain 30 lbs in the first month..if I keep running this test e for the next 7 weeks will it kick in more?
some help with test c cycle..
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here come ology fan boys. He told me I'm doing everything wrong, my physique is evidence that what he said isn't true. If I'm doing it wrong, I'd like him to tell me what is right.
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would you take training advice from an out of shape trainer? Would you take diet advice from a fat nutritionist? Alright then. Post a pic
kaname
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Way to not respond to the original point which got this all going. You made a statement without any clarification. I pointed that out, and you suddenly decided I owe you the reason(s).
I'll help you out on BigDC comment. I'm fairly sure he was cracking a joke, and didn't literally mean you're doing everything wrong. There are plenty of guys with nice physics that also are all messed up in the inside, though, so just for the record that really isn't saying much. Won't mention his retarded name but lets just say he did have a nice build and yet ended up 6 feet under due to his life style and doing things wrong. The body only shows one view of a larger picture.
I'm done replying in this thread as you're only going to throw up smoke screens and run around in circles.
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here is my clarification for you as simple as it can be. There is no need to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unless you have symptoms that require usage of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Do you agree or disagree? Based on your earlier posts you said he should run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning before he even knows if he will have sides that require it. I told him to wait and see if he needs it, and if so then use it. Am I clear enough?
kaname
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Damnit I said was done. You would be an unwise fool if you thought there was nobody with opposing views that also had an acceptable physique. Why would we go through every thread demanding anybody with opposing views post their pictures? So far, that's what your second call out for someone to post their pictures? Some of the members here have no intentions of ever posting pictures here. Don't think they will run and take pictures for you to prove their points, as that just doesn't make sense. Once again your analogy doesn't fit the situation.
Curious what picture I post to proof I know plenty about law enforcement?
.... And yes there are trainers out there who's bodies aren't what they use to be, that have a ton of knowledge. I would first judge a trainer by his appearance, and then immediately by his knowledge.
jkr2020788
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Lol lose the back words hat play-boy.
kaname
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Quote my post where I said "he should run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning."
Because I thought I said their are plenty of reasons why an A.I. would be run from the start.
But on a side note, yes I know everyone here at the forums that run their A.I. from the start aren't as well versed as you. Moving on...
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Damnit I said was done. You would be an unwise fool if you thought there was nobody with opposing views that also had an acceptable physique. Why would we go through every thread demanding anybody with opposing views post their pictures? So far, that's what your second call out for someone to post their pictures? Some of the members here have no intentions of ever posting pictures here. Don't think they will run and take pictures for you to prove their points, as that just doesn't make sense. Once again your analogy doesn't fit the situation.
Curious what picture I post to proof I know plenty about law enforcement?
of course people with good physiques have opposing views on Aromatase inhibitor (AI) usage. Some guys realize fast after their first cycle they are prone to certain sides so they implement an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) from the beginning of each subsequent cycle. Like myself for example, I rarely ever use one because I don't need to.
of course there is trainers that who's body isn't what it used to be, but if you knew what it used to be you would trust their knowledge. Its a common theme on these forums. Guys spout advice over and over about what is right, meanwhile you look like shit. Its 2013, snap a pic with your phone and upload it so we can see if you practice what you preach
Beck-Miester
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Just to weigh in, Kaname is right on the money with the need for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) while on a cycle: As you increase the amount of Test in your system, the rate and volume of aromatization increases..that is simple biology. Without an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you will have great big ponds of estrogen floating around in your body which will cause, among other things HORRENDOUS water retention, High Blood Pressure, and in some cases, joint pain, etc. I started out taking .25mg Adex every 2 days with my current cycle, and found that with the dosages I am taking, I had to up my dose of Adex to .5mg every 2 days in order to offset the increased aromatization from the larger Test volume. A human endocrine system will always work towards achieving homeostatis, and unless you take measures to counter that effort through the use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you will end up with a pooched cycle, and end up worse off than when you started the cycle.
Beck-Miester
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The fact is: Many of us have jobs and or lives that prevent us from posting pics of ourselves, however much we may want to. I have Tattoos that are VERY distinct, and I am also sure that some of the people that I know and/or work with frequent these forums and could quite easily identify me from them. Personally, my use of AAS is MY business, and my business alone...As well, in SOME countries, AAS are illegal...such as the States. Are you going to ask someone to incriminate themselves? Come on.....
I don't even remotely claim to be an expert on AAS, but I have done a HELL of a lot of research, including case studies and scientific research papers, so I personally feel that I have a pretty good "general" grasp of the subject, but I can assure you that there are many on here that are far better than me!
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lol
kaname
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I'll get right on that just for you pimpin.....just wait on me....
btw I'm curious, what is wrong with running a low dose from start as the OP said .25mg EOD? What would happen, low E, or lack of gains...just curious?
I actually would. Mark Rippetoe, bill Starr, Glenn pendlay are all "out of shape" as you so eloquently put it but they are arguably some of the best trainers in the country if not the world. As to nutrition Lyle McDonald is a nutritional genius but his physique is nowhere near that of jay cutler. Someone's results is not proof of their knowledge. That's another logical fallacy you've made, would you like to try again since you're on a roll? You're making strawman arguments and appeals to authority, both fallacies, yet you're too ignorant to realize it. My goals are not to become Ronnie Coleman size so what the fuck does my physique have anything to do with the topic at hand? You don't know my goals nor my training history and to act as if you know more bc of your physique is laughable since you can't even come up with a logical argument PLUS you're dead wrong about Aromatase inhibitor (AI) use and "have been in the game for years". Dude you're basically jus a chump who got caught with his dick out and now the zippers getting shit on your shit.
You keep trying to compare physiques and get ppl to send you pics, that's akin to trying to compare dick size in a packed locker room. A) only the insecure must compare themselves to another (yes you're insecure about yourself and lack the most basic self-confidence) and B) you're still gay for asking to see other dudes.
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Pimpin, aka lord Kaname, lol. Been busy as fuck lately "taking pics of my physique" so I can brag to gramoftren about my superior knowledge. Na buddy no repayments needed, you did a great a job of explaining shit, but sometimes you just can't fix stupid. I wouldn't mind that pager though, make me feel like we're back in the 90's lmao!!
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ok tell me your training history and what your goals are with lifting and steroid use.
oh let me guess, you don't time to do that?
jkr2020788
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Dude let it rest in peace. God damn
Like jkr2020788 said let it rest dude. If you do t want to use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle that's your choice and no one will stop you but don't go advising others to follow in your footsteps just bc you e been in the game or have a physique your proud of, those aren't valid arguments. If you want some of my history you can check out my log on here I have no intent to justify anything to you besides pointing out the error in your reasoning. Have a good night sir and good luck with your training goals.
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