Someone please help!!!

[Pumpmeup123]

Ok I just finished my first cycle. 12 weeks of sus at 500/week. 2 weeks after my cycle I ran nolva for 3 weeks at 20 mg for post cycle therapy (pct). My post cycle therapy (pct) ended a week ago and my nuts are still very small, and I'm very fatigued from workouts. Not to mention the worst part started my cycle at 170 and finished at 190. But now I'm back to 176 and loosing a pound a day almost. What can I do to get my nuts and natural test back to par? I'm very nervous about my condition.

Btw I realize now that I ran way to high of test and way to low post cycle therapy (pct) so if your going to tell me how I messed up please hold your comment!

 

[Bodyb4ever]

Sounds like u crashing you can run clomid 50mg a day 21-30 days (you can get from Rui sponsor fast delivery it took mine 3days)
if clomid lowers your libido run proviron or DHEA

Since you have low T your anxiety is high it makes it worse just relax 500mg sus is not a
high dose..

İ think vets will give you the same kind
of advice..

 

[Greybeard]

I don't think 500 PW is that high of a test dose at all...

With this being your very first post on Ology, you can expect a lot of questions.

Welcome to Ology btw!

 

[epoxy]

First of all, next time run CLOMID not nolva. Also your dose of Nolva was pretty low. I would have ran 2x that dose. Next time you might want to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well during and after since you are supposedly having issues post cycle therapy (pct) with your nuts. IMO, get some Aromasin, run that, it'll lower your estro and raise your test levels, maybe a Tribulus supplement to raise free test as well. If you are losing weight get a good creatine supplement, and remember to keep the protein intake high. You probably lost a decent amount of water after your cycle since you weren't running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in the first place to keep the water weight off ya.

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome...ditto^^^^

 

[brandonp005]

Should run some HCGenerate during cycle and into your post cycle therapy (pct) to help prevent this.

I used to use Nolva and Clomid in my post cycle therapy (pct)s but I don't any more. There are over the counter supplements out there that work and make me feel better.

 

[waceyf]

Should run some HCGenerate during cycle and into your post cycle therapy (pct) to help prevent this.

I used to use Nolva and Clomid in my post cycle therapy (pct)s but I don't any more. There are over the counter supplements out there that work and make me feel better.

You have to be kidding me, There is no OTC substitute for a good post cycle therapy (pct), This is how ppl get fucked up

 

[rck]

HCG and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct). Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will get your testicles back to size.

 

[brandonp005]

You have to be kidding me, There is no OTC substitute for a good PCT, This is how ppl get fucked up

Nope I'm not kidding wacey...i ran several cycles with different PCTs......
HcGenerate, Forged Post Cycle and Aromasin was my favorite recovery.

You should try it sometime and you'll be suprised bro.

 

[brandonp005]

HCG and clomid for post cycle therapy (pct). Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will get your testicles back to size.

HCG should also be picked up during cycle to prevent the shrinkage....makes for an easier recovery

 

[waceyf]

Nope I'm not kidding wacey...i ran several cycles with different PCTs......
HcGenerate, Forged Post Cycle and Aromasin was my favorite recovery.

You should try it sometime and you'll be suprised bro.

I'm not gonna try it brother, Maybe it worked well for you, but I would rather stick to the tried and true clomid or nolva, I'm not gonna risk anything, Clomid has worked great for me so I'll stick with it, I've heard great things about HCGenerate but I wont run it in place of a PCT

 

[brandonp005]

I'm not gonna try it brother, Maybe it worked well for you, but I would rather stick to the tried and true clomid or nolva, I'm not gonna risk anything, Clomid has worked great for me so I'll stick with it, I've heard great things about HCGenerate but I wont run it in place of a PCT

Dont fix whats not broken! haha Dont use the HcGenerate in replace of your normal PCT, use it as a supplement to it.

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

I used clomid for PCT on both my previous cycles. I waited 30 days for my system to fully clear and then ran 100mg clomid ed for 30 days. It worked beautifully both times and no side effects. Clomid is expensive stuff but totally worth it. Clomid for PCT.

 

[Kristofer68ss]

All I have ever used-

low dose clomid, exemestane or ldex(on hand), and alot of otc(like hcgenerate, sustain alpha, dth, post cycle, etc.....) has done wonders for me.

blood panels had my total test at 530's in May....Im 37.

 

[jbryand101b]

I've always used nolva/otc products as part of post cycle therapy (pct) for my rats. the times i've tried just otc post cycle therapy (pct) with them, it failed miserably.

I havn't tried hcgenerate yet, but I will, and if it fails to perform, I'm completely done with otc post cycle therapy (pct) experiments.

havn't used clomid yet. but have some from rui, and will be given it to my rats this time to see how it works.

 

[Ythrashin]

Dont fix whats not broken! haha Dont use the HcGenerate in replace of your normal PCT, use it as a supplement to it.

HCGenerate is a great supplement to add to your PCT protocol. It is an awesome supplement.

I also like to run need2's Unleashed. It lowers SHBG...

 

[juced_porkchop]

nolva is fine for pct, fron studys i have read I beleave it workes BETTER then clomid on a mg for mg basis.
clomid is out of date in my op, but ether or would help.

also pct "helps" recovery , it dont mean you will be 100% recoverd when doen it, its only a push/help.
give your self a month or 2.
HCGenerate mey help also and there no needles involved.
HCGenerate

PM me for a discount code if you wish

 

[juced_porkchop]

I'm not gonna try it brother, Maybe it worked well for you, but I would rather stick to the tried and true clomid or nolva, I'm not gonna risk anything, Clomid has worked great for me so I'll stick with it, I've heard great things about HCGenerate but I wont run it in place of a PCT

I would still use a nolva (or if you reaaly want) clomid pct THEN use HCGenerate an maybe Forged Post Cycle as soon as pct is done to help out more.
These two are really good products specially the HCGenerate I would reccomend.

 

[TJR87]

Should run some HCGenerate during cycle and into your post cycle therapy (pct) to help prevent this.

I used to use Nolva and Clomid in my post cycle therapy (pct)s but I don't any more. There are over the counter supplements out there that work and make me feel better.

Wow, this is horrible advice and should be deleted before someone else decides to try this.....

Even if this does work for you, you are very lucky.... Nothing over the counter can take place of Nolva or Clomid. There aren't even any bad sides from Nolva that I have experienced that make "feel bad" and make me want to go OTC, so what are you talking about? Worst sides I have got from 40-60mg of Nolva are 2 or 3 pimples. I will take that over any BS you can buy in a store. Plus, OTC junk is usually more expensive which is a huge waste.

I hope the majority of the forum members are smarter than this.

NOLVA, CLOMID, OR BOTH FOR post cycle therapy (pct)!

 

[metalstorm]

Take it for what it's worth. I was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for two years straight from another doctor and my new endo decided to take me off cold turkey because he was a sadistic pos.

Anyway, I did a best effort recovery because I thought maybe I didn't need TRT. So for the two weeks after my last inject I took 250iu of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2x a week and then did Nolva 40/40/30/20. Of course this was on my own doing. The endo wanted me to go cold turkey and said I could be suppressed up to TWO FULL years. Yes..I believe a lot of endos think their shit don't stink. So a few weeks after my PCT I took a blood test and my LH was in the middle of reference from being undetecable while on TRT. My test only recovered to 250 and that was a good enough for the endo to say that that was perfectly normal and acceptable level of test(which was a way for the HMO to deny trt)

I'd go with what a lot of the vets here are saying and perhaps try another round of PCT