starting dbol, test E & EQ cycle

[size_matters]

Hey I'm new to this forum, don't really have much time to spend writing on forums but gotta give it a try, I started a cycle on new years day and plan on doing it as follow,

wk 1-15 test E -- 500mg/wk (2x 250mg)
wk 1-14 EQ -- 600mg/wk (2 x 300mg)
wk 1-3.5 dbol -- 40mg/day, (20mg/12hrs)
wk 2-15 proviron -- 25mg/day
wk 1-16 aromasin 25 or 50mg (can't remember but its 1 tab every other day)
post cycle therapy (pct)
wk 17-21 nolva -- 20/20/10/10
wk 17-21 clomid -- 100/100/50/50
wk 17-21 DAA & other natty stuff...

specially not sure on the post cycle therapy (pct) part, anyone let me know what you think I would appreciate... all the gear is from Medistar. I'm 22yrs old 6'2 about 210 lbs with 8-9% bodyfat, been bodybuilding for 3 yrs now (last 1 1/2 year am very serious into it with a very strict diet)

Thanks

 

[essays]

Are you canadian?

Dosage on the two post cycle therapy (pct) drugs should be nolva at 20mg for 4 weeks and clomid 50mg 4 weeks. No taper. DAA is fine to add to post cycle therapy (pct).

Good layout. I am very interested in following along, so I hope you'll update frequently.

 

[balboa270]

Hey I'm new to this forum, don't really have much time to spend writing on forums but gotta give it a try, I started a cycle on new years day and plan on doing it as follow,

wk 1-15 test E -- 500mg/wk (2x 250mg)
wk 1-14 EQ -- 600mg/wk (2 x 300mg)
wk 1-3.5 dbol -- 40mg/day, (20mg/12hrs)
wk 2-15 proviron -- 25mg/day
wk 1-16 aromasin 25 or 50mg (can't remember but its 1 tab every other day)
post cycle therapy (pct)
wk 17-21 nolva -- 20/20/10/10
wk 17-21 clomid -- 100/100/50/50
wk 17-21 DAA & other natty stuff...

specially not sure on the post cycle therapy (pct) part, anyone let me know what you think I would appreciate... all the gear is from Medistar. I'm 22yrs old 6'2 about 210 lbs with 8-9% bodyfat, been bodybuilding for 3 yrs now (last 1 1/2 year am very serious into it with a very strict diet)

Thanks

man you are lean as hell. eat a sandwich lol. why so many compounds, this your first run? lil young to. I would grab some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for this one and blast, and essays nailed the post cycle therapy (pct) but with so many compounds why not old zeeks sig 40/40/20/20 on nolva with the clomid. keep us posted

 

[branman2012]

Are you canadian?

Dosage on the two PCT drugs should be nolva at 20mg for 4 weeks and clomid 50mg 4 weeks. No taper. DAA is fine to add to PCT.

Good layout. I am very interested in following along, so I hope you'll update frequently.

WHAT DOES CANDIAN HAVE TO DO WITH THIS!? us Candians can put some weight on too EH! hahaha, just teasin buddy!

 

[size_matters]

Are you canadian?

Dosage on the two PCT drugs should be nolva at 20mg for 4 weeks and clomid 50mg 4 weeks. No taper. DAA is fine to add to PCT.

Good layout. I am very interested in following along, so I hope you'll update frequently.

Yeah man, I'm canadian, french canadian lol, You're probably asking this because all my stuff is from medi right?
anyways I started the cycle on january 1st, on my 10th day now, dbol kicked in hard since I'm taking it with grapefruit juice, seems to be helping a lot, Thanks for the heads up on the PCT, I'll keep you guys posted for sure, like I said, so far only dbol kicked in since a few days now, I'm getting crazy fkn pumps and starting to gain size & strength, started eating more also... didn't weight myself before starting so idk really if I gained any lbs... probably not yet, can't wait for the EQ & test to kick in.

 

[size_matters]

man you are lean as hell. eat a sandwich lol. why so many compounds, this your first run? lil young to. I would grab some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for this one and blast, and essays nailed the pct but with so many compounds why not old zeeks sig 40/40/20/20 on nolva with the clomid. keep us posted

Hey, I can get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but its fkn expensive, this is my 2nd cycle, the first one was test E solo @ 500mg/wk for 14 wks, I loved it and decided to go all out with this cycle, I am pretty lean but I forgot to mention I take ephedrine - 64 mg preworkout, I know ppl say its dangerous and all but I've been taking eph for a long time and absolutely no sides, lol that's probably why I'm so lean, and when I'm not on gear I focus more on cutting than bulking...

 

[essays]

Hey, I can get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) but its fkn expensive, this is my 2nd cycle, the first one was test E solo @ 500mg/wk for 14 wks, I loved it and decided to go all out with this cycle, I am pretty lean but I forgot to mention I take ephedrine - 64 mg preworkout, I know ppl say its dangerous and all but I've been taking eph for a long time and absolutely no sides, lol that's probably why I'm so lean, and when I'm not on gear I focus more on cutting than bulking...

You need to get off the ephedrine. Contraction band necrosis in the heart muscle is no joke. You WILL die if you continue this abuse. 64mg of ephedrine preworkout while on steroids is going to shorten your life. You might not feel it today, but when you have a myocardial infraction at age 42, you're going to regret this shit.

You are abusing this shit. This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[size_matters]

I understand, I tried working out without ephdrine last week and it sucked, maybe it would be better after a while. what you just said scared me and I'll definitely think about that.. Thanks man!

 

[essays]

For the record, I use ephedrine pre-workout when off cycle, but at doses of 8 or 16mg and only 1-2 days per week when I feel like I REALLY need it.

Mild ephedrine cycling with periods off-time are not going to hurt you. Chronic ephedrine abuse will sneak up on you and it will literally kill you. You will not see it coming.

Once you've been 'off' for a few weeks, give just one 8mg tab a try with the pre-workout drink of your choice. I think you'll find it still gives you an ergogenic effect, and it's MUCH safer.

 

[size_matters]

For the record, I use ephedrine pre-workout when off cycle, but at doses of 8 or 16mg and only 1-2 days per week when I feel like I REALLY need it.

Mild ephedrine cycling with periods off-time are not going to hurt you. Chronic ephedrine abuse will sneak up on you and it will literally kill you. You will not see it coming.

Once you've been 'off' for a few weeks, give just one 8mg tab a try with the pre-workout drink of your choice. I think you'll find it still gives you an ergogenic effect, and it's MUCH safer.

Thanks man, I really appreciate the help, I didn't think it was dangerous unless someone who takes it already has a heart problem, I'll consider taking it the way you mentionned, specially while on gear, probably taper it down since I get really shitty wrkouts when I'm off it, I mean, I still have great energy but the feeling just isn't there, no endurance, no strength etc...

 

[size_matters]

Hey, a little update on the cycle,
I forgot to weight myself again damnit, gained very noticable strength & endurance in every area, gained noticable size also, no agression or whatever else, no sides either, Proviron seems to be helping A LOT with the sex drive, I basically have wood 24/7 & feel like fking every hour of the day, & I'm only doing 25mg a day, I know its the proviron because before I started it I def. wasn't that sexually active, also noticed I'm getting a thicker beard (was very light before) so far I'm satisfied with the outcome of everything, just one thing Idk if its the gear doing this but I have pain in my back, specially the middle back and its not the muscles... I'll post again after I'm done with the dbol (about 12 days left)

 

[essays]

The pain in the middle of your back is coming from the dbol. It's an effect common to oral steroids known as "back pumps". Guys have found that supplementing up to 6-10g of taurine pre-workout will alleviate the back pumps.

How long have you been on cycle? I just picked up my gear today...

 

[size_matters]

Fk man my old source told me about this too, (about the back pumps & taurine) I'll; def. invest in some. I started the cycle on the 1st of january, so I'm on my 14th day... are you gonna do the EQ cycle?

 

[essays]

Fk man my old source told me about this too, (about the back pumps & taurine) I'll; def. invest in some. I started the cycle on the 1st of january, so I'm on my 14th day... are you gonna do the EQ cycle?

You'll only really need the taurine for the dbol (or any other strong oral), it may be useful if you use anavar later or anything, but generally people only have issues on heavy stuff like dbol, anadrol, superdrol, halodrol, etc.

Well, I've got 3 10mL vials of Bold undec 300 sitting in front of me right now, and 3 10mL vials of test c 300, and a vial of nandro deca 300, and 100 caps of 30mg Anavar (var), and a bottle of superdrol....

I'm just waiting to complete some physical and written exams that should be done by march. I don't need all that stuff messing with my head or cardio before I'm done.

 

[size_matters]

Right on man, let me know how that works for you.

 

[gymrat827]

Thanks man, I really appreciate the help, I didn't think it was dangerous unless someone who takes it already has a heart problem, I'll consider taking it the way you mentionned, specially while on gear, probably taper it down since I get really shitty wrkouts when I'm off it, I mean, I still have great energy but the feeling just isn't there, no endurance, no strength etc...

why dont u use a different stim? something that wont kill you maybe..??..??..??

 

[size_matters]

why dont u use a different stim? something that wont kill you maybe..??..??..??

Because nothing works as good as Eph, except maybe crystal meth but I never tried it, cocaine would work real good too but its too expensive... ordered some jack3d today so hopefully its a good substitute.

 

[essays]

Have you checked your BP yet?

 

[size_matters]

Have you checked your BP yet?

no, but on my first cycle (test E @ 500mg/wk) I lost a noticable amount of fat, went from 11-12% to probably 7-8% the lowest, and I had veins popping out like crazy, I know eph is a pretty good diuretic, and it raises BP, so I did cut down my ephedrine intake to more than half, I'm slowly working on stopping it, do you know if eph would affect dbols effects? since its a diuretic I thought the gains from dbol would be way dryier and less intense when i take it with ephedrine, btw I'm french so if my grammar isn't always the best, that's the reason lol

 

[essays]

Don't worry about your grammar, it's good. The problem with ephedrine on cycle is that pretty much all steroids will negatively affect your BP, ephedrine will just make the problem worse. I don't think you'll find ephedrine "drying" so much as running an AI.