Steroids and Cutting?

outlawtas

outlawtas

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It seems there are a lot of posts about cutting cycles and steroids. I just want to get some facts straight.

1. What is the purpose of going on a cutting cycle with steroids?

2. How do steroids (if they do) help achieve your goals on a cutting cycle?

3. What steroids are good for cutting, and why?


Yes I know diet and cardio always come first. But my question is specific to gear, so please no "diet and cardio first" posts. I think someone might want to make a sticky about this topic in the newbie section.

Thanks guys.
 
outlawtas2 said:
It seems there are a lot of posts about cutting cycles and steroids. I just want to get some facts straight.

1. What is the purpose of going on a cutting cycle with steroids?

2. How do steroids (if they do) help achieve your goals on a cutting cycle?

3. What steroids are good for cutting, and why?


Yes I know diet and cardio always come first. But my question is specific to gear, so please no "diet and cardio first" posts. I think someone might want to make a sticky about this topic in the newbie section.

Thanks guys.
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1. To help maintain muscle while in a caloric deficit.

2. See #1

3. You could cut on ANY drug...you have already answered your question... bulking/cutting is dependent on food intake and cardio. Alot of guys might hop on here and say Winstrol (winny), tren, anavar, or any other choice of gear where there is little to no water retention. However, there is really NO SUCH THING AS A CUTTING DRUG.

I would love to see this as a sticky somewhere...it seems this question is on the board all the time; the same answer applies to every one of them. :rolleyes:

TL
 
TOOLifter said:
I would love to see this as a sticky somewhere...it seems this question is on the board all the time; the same answer applies to every one of them. :rolleyes:
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But it is so much fun to point and laugh when somebody makes a post that they want to 'get cut' so that they are going to 'use winny'.
 
Winstrol and Tren do seem popular for cutting cycles. I don't think you should bother using any steroids during a cutting cycle unless you already have significant muscle mass... doesn't seem to be much point in using them while cutting if you only have like 160 lbs of lean mass under 50 lbs of fat and you're 6'1.
Don't some androgens promote fat loss? Not to a significant enough degree to help with cutting though, I would think.
 
Behemoth said:
Don't some androgens promote fat loss? Not to a significant enough degree to help with cutting though, I would think.
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Perhaps. But they aren't magical and, as you eluded to, it isn't significant...unless perhaps that bf% is already quite low.
 
cardio and caloric deficit will be your actual cutting excercise. The drugs are to prevent muscle wasting. Many people will use a Winny/Primo stack for this although I'm not sure why you wouldn't want a little test in there.
 
yankeesuck said:
cardio and caloric deficit will be your actual cutting excercise. The drugs are to prevent muscle wasting. Many people will use a Winny/Primo stack for this although I'm not sure why you wouldn't want a little test in there.
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Because I'd want a lot of test. :D
 
I prefer to run a bulking cycle directly into a cutter and I usually add Winstrol (winny) in durring my cutting phase but I ALWAYS use test aswell throughout. I just run l-dex for the adema caused by test and I like the hardening effect of the winny.
 
You'd want an Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) that had no water retention, low/no conversion to estrogen, and very high androgenic activity. Now that I've just described Tren, I'll go ahead and recommend it. The reason tren works so well with helping to cut fat is that is is highly androgenic (2-3X that of test) and does not convert to estrogen (which would weaken its androgenic properties and caue water bloat).
AAS can and do aid in fat loss specificaly due to their androgenic component. Androgens that do not aromatize are by far the best Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for aiding in body fat loss because they do not add water which gives the appearance of fat/softness, and this also ups their androgenic properties because they are not downgraded through aromtization.
You must remember, however, that even though heavy androgens can help to eliminate fat, their number one job is nitrogen retention/buildup which is crucial to maintaining muscle mass while on a restriced calorie diet. When the body does not have enough calories it will soon go after its muscle tissue and turn it to glucose for fuel through glucogenisis (SP?). Even though nandrolone is a relatively weak androgen that will reduce to an even weaker one, it has a high abiility for nitrogen retention. And for this reason, it is quit effective in cutting cycles at a low dose to maintain muscle.
DHT Derivative seem to be very popular for this reason as well, as most don't aromatize and lead to little water retention. Examples are Winstrol (winny), masteron, primo, oxandrolone, etc... Also, since DHT is a stronger androgen than test, it's derivatives are often more androgenix as well.
 
Soulrebel305 said:
Tren over Winstrol (winny)? How would you Cycle cyp and tren?
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you wouldn't

you'd run test prop and tren ace, some call it finaprop;)

imo, that combo along with your diet and cardio will make changes like nothing will, well maybe except for dnp but I don't recommend it, it is very unsafe and not needed imo
 
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