Still not sure which way to go

riverking47

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Okay gents. 6'1" 190 pounds 29 years old not sure of body fat, but ectomorph no doubt. I have used PH in the past and had decent results, am inexperienced and usually lose my gains, keeping about 50% at best. Anyway, I joined this site about a month ago and I read stuff on here everyday (obsessing a little maybe). I want to gain about 10-15 pounds and hold on to it. My goal for the past few years has been to make 200lbs. A little history, I had a thyroid disease that I didn't know about until I was tested and I had extreme hyperthyroidism (graves disease). Anyway I weighed 152 pounds when I was treated. About a year after the treatment I started lifting and to date I put on about 40lbs (took about 5 years). I think the majority of the weight was just a natural rebound from the thyroid problem. So here I am now, I'm not taking anything at all and I'm between 185-190. Most of what I hear first timers do test E. Since I have zero exp, I'm concerned about not doing it correctly and failing in the pct realm. I posted before about doing a smaller dose (less than 500) and was advised not to as it would shut me down and I would see no gains. I've read there are other weaker substances that don't aromatize and have less sides than test, but that you would probably have to run test with them? There are so many substances out there, I'm beginning to get bogged down and my brain might explode if I continue to try to research each one (i'm also studying for my nurse practitioner degree :). Just looking to refine my research a bit more so when I take the plunge and get my gear I'll be confident in what I'm doing and feel as much comfort as one can. I'm not trying to get Arnold big lol. I really only want 10-15lbs sustainable. Thanks fellas.
 
so I have it set up to get everything suggested in the above link. couple questions.
would the pct protocol be the same if I went ten weeks?

It appears that no matter which lab I choose I am going to have to buy three vials of 250/perml 10ml vial to make it twelve, but I would only need two to go ten weeks. (each vial will provide 5 weeks at 500/week correct?)

it also appears that hcg is sold in 5000iu vials meaning 500/iu week as suggested would only last 10.

so lets look at what im planning and you tell me if it seems right

2 vials test e=
hcg 5000iu=
armidex 30ml 1mg/ml =
clomid 60 pills=
nova 60 pills=

do I need the third vial of test and the second vial of hcg? (assuming I need to do 12 weeks)

thanks for your input
 
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you do hcg 500uis split into two shots a week so do the math

you aren't allowed to discuss prices on this forum but those are an amazing deal lol
diet out the prices
 
PCT is the same no matter what length.

Get 3 vials. The measurements won't be EXACT and there's always the chance that you fuck up, break one, etc, etc.
 
yeah that is the math bud. 5000/500=10.... that's why the question is; is the pct going to be the same for a 10 weeks as it would be for twelve.. otherwise I will need to buy more test and hcg.
 
Hi i am new hear can any one help me I am doing loads of research on a beginner cycle I have been training for 3 years and I am 33 I've researched for months really and it all seems to be 2 confusing I get the concept of it all but there just seems to many ways and choices to make. its annoying me so much I'm putting it off in fear of making the wrong choice if any 1 cud give me a little advise on what a beginner oral cycle would be and beginner injectable cycle would be that would be great I weigh 180 lbs 5ft 7 inch 17% bf also I had a lump under my nipple when I was younger that went away then came back then when I started to train it went away on its own again I did go to the doctors about it had some bloods done and he said it was nothing at the time I hadn't even thought of ped s nor did I know that gyno was a symptom of taking them were as I now no it is. am I more prone to get this whilst on a cycle was also one of my worries hope that makes sense thanks for any help.
 
yeah that is the math bud. 5000/500=10.... that's why the question is; is the pct going to be the same for a 10 weeks as it would be for twelve.. otherwise I will need to buy more test and hcg.

You may as well just run the cycle for 12. Like I said, you're going to want more vials than you need anyways. HCG is pretty cheap too depending on where you get it. I advise you to read this article as well http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/653703-hcg-cycle-benefits-mixing-administration-details.html.
 
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