Strengh gain expectation on Tren and liver issue with accutane?

[Arthenne]

Hey, I'm new on this forum but I'm not new on steroids.

First of all, I'm 172pounds 13% 5'9'' Just turned 26YO
I'm training for over 5 years.
I discovered that I had low test about 1 years ago(not low enough to be treated by doctor), I attempted a restart on my own some months ago(my first cycle), 150mg Test-p EOD 8weeks +PCT nolva clomid.

Bloodwork post PCt havent been satifying therefore I'm now self-medicating TRT.(200mg/week + .15mg arimidex EOD(maybe too much but BW next month will tell me) with 250ui HCG 2x/week)

no need to say that I lost some precious gain after PCT... kept about 5 solid pounds and dropped 1% bf.

I have been training for years with extremely slow progress, I'm frustrated and I decided to jump on king of all, Tren.

in 2 month im starting tren-a at 100mg EOD for 8weeks. Will use Pramipexol during the whole times at .25mg/Day

Of course no PCT planned cause I'll resume to TRT after completion of my blast.

I was wondering what could I expect in terms of Strengh gain?
I'm planning doing my first powerlifting meet next winter. My total right now is about 1000.
Would it be exagerated to expect reaching over a total of 1100 after one cycle of tren???

Should I be supose to keep most of my strengh gain??(still doing over 1100 after cycle)
Tren increase the neural efficiency, therefor quitting it should reduce my strengh

Plus, I'm very prone to acne, my last cycle given me intense back acne... still have some over 3 months post cycle...

I have some accutane on hand. and my concern is, how bad will it affect my liver.

I will use 100mg EOD of tren ace + 20mg accutane EOD(if needed upping to 20mg ED) + NAC 1.5-2g ED.

I know tren is a bit liver toxic, and accutane is pretty harsh. However I plan on using low dose of each with a good liver support, and will get my liver value tested during cycle.

How bad should I expect my liver to suffer??


Also I havent said it but my goal on tren is primarly Recomp. I would like to drop under 10% while staying under 180(the weight class I want to participate in) with of course strengh!!

Thanks

 

[tbonexl]

Too many variables to know what u will gain. One member here ran tren for a long time and didn't gain anything. So it all depends.

 

[Arthenne]

I doubt thathis tren was legit if he didnt gain anything.

Even with a crappy diet and training tren will yield result. Far from optimal and far from healthy but will still yield some noticeable result. if legit tren of course.

Plus, I'm not asking for exact numbers or statistic.

But is from experience a intermediate lifter(cause I consider my lift being as such) is likely to experience an 10% increase in his main lift with tren if diet and training are in check.

Because thats mainly what I want and expect. pass from 1000 to 1100 is only a 10% increase.


What was your experience on tren? how much your lift went up?

thanks

 

[tbonexl]

If u look kinda closely to the threads, you'll see who I'm talking about.

First time I ran tren, it was crazy. I cant remember exact numbers, but everything went up. I do remember crushing 235 on military presses. That was a first for me. I was doing the Ohio state bench routine. It was going up all the time. My deadlifts really shot up too. Everything did. I think I was around 205 at the time and I'm over 6' it was homemade tren from fina pellets. Way more potent then the shit u get now a days. That was probably the best time I had on tren. The old cattle pellet conversion kits.

 

[Arthenne]

What was your starting point??

 

[tbonexl]

Shit that was 15 years ago or something. I can't remember.

 

[Arthenne]

Damn... thats a long time XD

Alright I understand why you can't remember

 

[tbonexl]

All I remember is I got a ton of strength from the fina. The ugl stuff ain't as potent as that shit was imo. Even at double the dose. Either that or I'm getting old lol

 

[R9]

> 5'9" 172lbs
> recomp

Come one Olive Oyl, you know what you need to do.

 

[Arthenne]

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