Strengh gains during and after a steroid cycle

[NewBorn01]

Hey everyone

For exemple , after a Steroid cycle , oral or injection , i've read that people kept the strengh , or even gain some more during PCT , they lost some kgs , but kept the same strengh as in cycle , i'd like to know how can it be ?

An other question , during a cycle of oral steroid or injection , taking a SERM like clomid can decrease the suppresion or it's a bad idea? some says it's a good idea , some says it's bad idea cause of the side effects of SERMs( libido , mood etc )

Thank you

 

[ELicit23]

I've kept strength about the same for about the first month and a half of pct. After the second month or so, muscle and strength loss is noticeable. For me, strength loss wasn't huge..

No idea about Clomid. The only serm I've taken during cycle is nolva and I didn't notice anything different. I took it for gyno

 

[NewBorn01]

Thank you !
Well , that's the problem with roids , once you stop , you lose strengh/muscles , and you can lose motivation , am i right? cause if i see that i lose the gains even if i train hard, that will demotivate me from going to the gym , and push me to do an other cycle , that sucks

 

[Chicago712]

Thank you !
Well , that's the problem with roids , once you stop , you lose strengh/muscles , and you can lose motivation , am i right? cause if i see that i lose the gains even if i train hard, that will demotivate me from going to the gym , and push me to do an other cycle , that sucks

That sounds like a personal problem, good thing u could spot a potential addiction ur lucky... Idk why u wouldn't train as hard as while ur on?? Like I hate when people say that!! Motherfucker work harder!

 

[NewBorn01]

That sounds like a personal problem, good thing u could spot a potential addiction ur lucky... Idk why u wouldn't train as hard as while ur on?? Like I hate when people say that!! Motherfucker work harder!

Na , i'd train as hard on as off , i meant that if i work hard as akways after a steroid cycle , i'll still lose some muscles , that's a motivation killer , working hard and losing muscles .
The cycle i'm gonna do (maybe) is Epistane

 

[Hcmagia24]

Na , i'd train as hard on as off , i meant that if i work hard as akways after a steroid cycle , i'll still lose some muscles , that's a motivation killer , working hard and losing muscles .
The cycle i'm gonna do (maybe) is Epistane

if you do "start" start with some testosterone...

 

[China_Wall]

Hey everyone

For exemple , after a Steroid cycle , oral or injection , i've read that people kept the strengh , or even gain some more during PCT , they lost some kgs , but kept the same strengh as in cycle , i'd like to know how can it be ?

An other question , during a cycle of oral steroid or injection , taking a SERM like clomid can decrease the suppresion or it's a bad idea? some says it's a good idea , some says it's bad idea cause of the side effects of SERMs( libido , mood etc )

Thank you

expect to lose 30% of all gains made during a cycle no matter how spot-on your PCT, diet and training are

 

[NewBorn01]

expect to lose 30% of all gains made during a cycle no matter how spot-on your PCT, diet and training are

Ok , 30% , but will i still progress after the cycle? i mean i've been training for 5 years , i don't gain much muscles anymore , so after a steroid cycle , i'll lose little by little for 1-2 months (or more) , so i won't progress 'naturally' anymore ?

 

[China_Wall]

Ok , 30% , but will i still progress after the cycle? i mean i've been training for 5 years , i don't gain much muscles anymore , so after a steroid cycle , i'll lose little by little for 1-2 months (or more) , so i won't progress 'naturally' anymore ?

sure u can still progress naturally... it will just take longer and your diet will have to be more dialed in. Not gaining just means you're not eating enough, it's that simple

 

[ELicit23]

One cycle will turn into 50 more. Then you think about cruising. I'm addicted. I admit.

 

[China_Wall]

One cycle will turn into 50 more. Then you think about cruising. I'm addicted. I admit.

I'm a lifer too... and I love it

 

[cdiggity]

Don't some people manage to just do a cycle or two, be happy with their results, and then go on with their life or do people, for the most part, continue to keep cycling afterwords?

 

[China_Wall]

Don't some people manage to just do a cycle or two, be happy with their results, and then go on with their life or do people, for the most part, continue to keep cycling afterwords?

the majority of people are in that group...

 

[Southernfish]

Don't some people manage to just do a cycle or two, be happy with their results, and then go on with their life or do people, for the most part, continue to keep cycling afterwords?

I think that if youre a serious lifter, you will cycle on and off and eventually stay on as long as your body allows it. But, if youre a guy who uses steroids to get motivation to lift, you might do one or two then stop, but also stop the gym as well, because essentially you never really wanted to lift in the first place.

 

[cdiggity]

Well I haven't needed steroids to get motivated for the gym, and I have been lifting seriously for about 5 years now. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if doing steroids is what I want to do or if it is best to stay natural.

 

[China_Wall]

Well I haven't needed steroids to get motivated for the gym, and I have been lifting seriously for about 5 years now. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if doing steroids is what I want to do or if it is best to stay natural.

the fact that you're thinking about it is good bro, keeping things in perspective is never a bad way to live

 

[Southernfish]

Well I haven't needed steroids to get motivated for the gym, and I have been lifting seriously for about 5 years now. I guess I'm just trying to figure out if doing steroids is what I want to do or if it is best to stay natural.

Thats gonna be a question only you can and should answer, thinking is good. Educate yourself, that way when a decision needs to be made you can decide on the knowledge you have whats best for you my man.

 

[NewBorn01]

I love lifting , it's my passion , i've got personnal problems etc , and lifting is the only thing who makes me feel good , i'm in a damn good mood after a gym training , for at least 2 hours.
I've been training for 5 years , and that's the reason why i want to try a steroid , even if i know i can become addict , really fast... i know myself , i'll tell myself i continue , until the day i'll have a serious problem , and that's bad.
I think i'm gonna try 1 cycle of PH , epistane with dermacrine as a T base ( no injection , just can't do it for a Lot of reasons and i'm not scared to inject , even if i know it's way more better for my health/gains ) , then if i'm happy with it , with the good feeling , gains , and side effects , then i'll do an other one 4 months after .
If the Epi cycle goes well , i'd like to know if i do the exact same cycle some months after , will my body be accustom to it and i won't get gains or really small ? is that the reason why people always change , or add an other compound