Summer Test Prop/Tren Ace Cycle

[datpump92]

Stats:
. Age: 29
. Height: 5'8
. Weight: 188 lbs.
. Body Fat Percentage: Around 10%
. Cycle History: 4 cycles before, this would be my first with Tren
. Training Experience: 7 years of serious lifting and dieting

So here's my cycle that I plan on running soon:
100mg Test Prop/week (Weeks 1-8)
250mg Tren Ace/week (Weeks 1-8)
1mg Caber/week as my prolactin antagonist (Weeks 1-8)
PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20 (Weeks 9-12)

Notes: This is my 4th cycle, first with tren. I have some letro on hand just in case there is an estrogen rebound after week 8 (I highly doubt it due to the low amount of test I would be running). I also have clomid that was unused from another cycle.

Questions:
1) Would you suggest pinning ED or EOD for both Tren and Test?
2) Caber or Prami? I heard Prami can cause bad nausea and vomiting, that's why I went with Caber but interested in suggestions.
3) Since I already have the clomid, should I incorporate it into my PCT?

Gear:
I have the the caber, nolva, letro, and clomid on hand... Now I just need the Test Prop and Tren Ace. Is there anyone that would be kind enough to give me a reference name/code for AML? I've heard great things about them and I'm wanting to try them out.

Thanks for any suggestions/comments on my cylce. Like I said, this is my 4th cycle, first with Tren. Been lurking on these forums and finally decided to join the community. It's good to be here!

 

[Austinite]

Welcome to the forums, datpump.

In order to get advice tailored to you, consider including the following statistics about yourself:

. Age
. Height
. Weight
. Body Fat Percentage
. Cycle History
. Training Experience

To answer your questions as a general rule of thumb:

1. Short esters server better when you inject daily, however, EOD is also effective.
2. Prami. Dose at .25mg for a few days and then increase to .5mg. Always take right before bed to avoid reactions.
3. Yes, clomid and nolvadex for PCT.

Consider hCG on cycle. Good luck.

 

[datpump92]

Welcome to the forums, datpump.

In order to get advice tailored to you, consider including the following statistics about yourself:

. Age
. Height
. Weight
. Body Fat Percentage
. Cycle History
. Training Experience

To answer your questions as a general rule of thumb:

1. Short esters server better when you inject daily, however, EOD is also effective.
2. Prami. Dose at .25mg for a few days and then increase to .5mg. Always take right before bed to avoid reactions.
3. Yes, clomid and nolvadex for PCT.

Consider hCG on cycle. Good luck.

Thanks for the advice! I just added my stats to the OP for anyone else interested.

 

[Rida5d]

I dunno how aus skipped this but:
U gotta do the test a couple of weeks more..
1-10 test p
1-8 tren ace, if u can handle the sides.

 

[Austinite]

I dunno how aus skipped this but:
U gotta do the test a couple of weeks more..
1-10 test p
1-8 tren ace, if u can handle the sides.

No. He has it right. 10 weeks of prop is a waste.

 

[Rida5d]

I thought everyone recommends running test a little more to make sure the 19-nor cleared out of the system..
Why 10 weeks of test p is a waste Aus buddy?

 

[Austinite]

I thought everyone recommends running test a little more to make sure the 19-nor cleared out of the system..
Why 10 weeks of test p is a waste Aus buddy?

19-Nor has nothing to do with cycle timing. It's the ester. Decanoate is a longer ester than enanthate or cypionate, triggering a need to run Testosterone longer while the compound in the decanoate ester clears.

Prop is just not very effective after 8 weeks. Not for gains.

 

[Millertime]

Just so I'm not seeing this wrong your planning on only doing
100 mg test prop
250 mg tren ace

This is for the whole week or we talkin eod?

 

[Austinite]

Just so I'm not seeing this wrong your planning on only doing
100 mg test prop
250 mg tren ace

This is for the whole week or we talkin eod?

I'm hoping it's per week. Unless he misstated it in his post, but he mentions it's a weekly dose.

 

[Millertime]

I'm hoping it's per week. Unless he misstated it in his post, but he mentions it's a weekly dose.

If so he's definetly running it on the xtremely conservative side. Even if I wanted to do what he's doing and run low test higher tren I'd definetly run more than this. Thats less than 1 cc of gear eod. I'm not a believer of the the whole low test high tren thing. Nothing makes me feel better than test so why would I take a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose then run a little tren. My minimum test on any cycle is 500mg a week with a max of 750. Maybe I'm just fortunate and don't experience gyno like some guys do on very little gear. My suggestion is if your gonna run a cycle then run a cycle. I'm all for starting low to see how you react but within reason.

 

[Austinite]

If so he's definetly running it on the xtremely conservative side. Even if I wanted to do what he's doing and run low test higher tren I'd definetly run more than this. Thats less than 1 cc of gear eod. I'm not a believer of the the whole low test high tren thing. Nothing makes me feel better than test so why would I take a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose then run a little tren. My minimum test on any cycle is 500mg a week with a max of 750. Maybe I'm just fortunate and don't experience gyno like some guys do on very little gear. My suggestion is if your gonna run a cycle then run a cycle. I'm all for starting low to see how you react but within reason.

Well, if tren is actually legitimate (not underdosed) which is very rare, 250 would be equal in potency as 2500mg of test. The test dose could be considered conservative, not tren though. I think most folks overdo it with tren in an attempt to allow it to do all the work. OP is at 10% and 250 should be enough to take advantage of trens nutrient partitioning.

One question that I failed to ask was whether this was a cut or bulk. In the event that it's a bulk, I'd certainly increase test dose, otherwise it's plenty.

 

[datpump92]

I was planning on running these doses just to see how I react to the Tren. I've read some posts where people insist to keep the ratio of Tren:Test much higher. I plan on starting at 250mg/week and increasing if I can handle the sides, but I do plan on keeping the Test Prop at 100mg/week. What do y'all think of this plan?

 

[Austinite]

I was planning on running these doses just to see how I react to the Tren. I've read some posts where people insist to keep the ratio of Tren:Test much higher. I plan on starting at 250mg/week and increasing if I can handle the sides, but I do plan on keeping the Test Prop at 100mg/week. What do y'all think of this plan?

cutting or bulking?

 

[datpump92]

cutting or bulking?

I am not wanting to all-out bulk but I'm definitely wanting to put on more mass than stay lean.

 

[Austinite]

I am not wanting to all-out bulk but I'm definitely wanting to put on more mass than stay lean.

Bulking. Your test dose is too low.

 

[datpump92]

What would recommend that I increase it to? Also, are my Tren doses acceptable?

 

[Austinite]

What would recommend that I increase it to? Also, are my Tren doses acceptable?

Tren is just fine. Test should be 100 to 150 EOD.

 

[datpump92]

N/a

 

[Austinite]

Advice noted, thanks for all your advice! Is there any way that you could pm me a referral name/code to AML? Or maybe the link to Pinnacle? Thanks again!

I don't use UGL gear.

 

[datpump92]

I don't use UGL gear.

No worries. Thanks for all the advice!