SUS or Test E/C?

[808crx]

Hey everyone, it's that time, putting my cycle together, so I came to the place where the knowledge is at! Now, I will try to answer the questions I think is coming first...

I have been on two Test C cycles (only) which made nice gains, very lean, (they were both fight preps), and I have been on numerous PH cycles. No sides on any of the cycles (knock on wood). My goals at that time was strength and lean mass gains (due to weight class, diet and cardio couldn't bulk much).

Well, new goals! Actually looking to be competitive in BBing within a few years (at 250lbs+ comp weight) 6'1" 217 11% (generic scale bf% measurer) now 2 weeks in a PH cycle.


So, I have talked to a few people regarding a cycle for these goals. I am set on a Test/Dbol/Deca cycle, maybe a few times. But, what I want to know is, I keep hearing about these freaky SUS gains, especially the quicker acting ability due to the prop. I'd like to know if I should do SUS in place of either Test E/C?

Now, for the people who are going to ask me about my diet, I do know how to diet to "drop weight" due to fighting, not how to bulk, and cut, which from what I am researching is completely different than what I was doing. So, I have lined up a Nutrition Program for my wife and I with 3J which we will be starting soon!

So, what do people think about this? Sus/Dbol/Deca? Or Test E/C/Dbol/Deca?

***EDIT: OH! And I know it's coming so, been in the gym now for little over 3 years. "size" Lifting for about 2 of them. Went from 160 6%, to my current 217 11% (most size gains on the PH cycles and lots of protein shakes).

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Test is test bro. It's all the same, just diff esters. Prop kicks in faster, e/c take a while and sus multiple releasing. Sus may just kick in faster but it'll still take a while to build in the blood.

 

[teamcasino]

Im on a 12 week sus cycle now and still unsure how to pin it. I hear people say you need to pin only once or twice a week while other say it needs to be EOD. For this cycle am doing 250 EOD. On previous cycles I pinned 2 a week at 250 and got really good results. Im only 2 weeks in and this was z's last batch so not sure what to expect from this.

Test E will give you more stable blood levels and with the Dbol you should get a kickstart in ur first 4 weeks.

 

[808crx]

That's what I've been thinking, due to the fact that I will be on the Dbol, I will get a jump start any way, so no real need for fast acting test correct?

 

[Matt0071]

sustanon for me i found my levels were very unstable cause of the blends, and caused alot of bloat as well
on test c or e i dont find the bloat near as bad!

 

[H 3 L L S M A N]

Test is test bro. It's all the same, just diff esters. Prop kicks in faster, e/c take a while and sus multiple releasing. Sus may just kick in faster but it'll still take a while to build in the blood.

Not true a 12 week cycle of Prop is completely different than a 12 week cycle of a long ester Test. So the Test is Test statement don't work in my books, when you break it down yes it is the same compound but different release times but they are not the same. Also IMO Sust is a waste of time when you have the option to use E or P.

I prefer Prop.

 

[Matt0071]

i think it just goes by preference of what u prefer, and which "test" gives u the best results
give sustanon a shot, if u have already tried test c and e
i just know i bloated like a motherfucker on sustanon, in 3 weeks i jacked up 15 pounds mostly due to bloat and caused high bp and my diet was the same as i am on test c currently and no bloat what so ever! ( very lean mass gains )

 

[808crx]

never tried Test E, from which I was hearing isn't much different from C. Never tried Prop either. Only esther I've been on was C. Gains were very lean, strength was nice.

But, I've heard about six different people, 2 on this board, that has said Sust has given them huge gains quickly. But, now you mention bloat, maybe thats just it? Looks to me like I'm sticking with the Test E/Dbol/Deca cycle, unless I hear any convincing arguments...

 

[Matt0071]

alot of people have really nice gains on sustanon bro, if u are looking to bulk try sustanon out, as u might not bloat as much as i did, it all depends on how your body reacts to sust! I just found it totally diferent then test c or e altogether!

 

[808crx]

Thanks Matt, I'll continue to do some research...