Sust and Mast E cycle help please

[alphamega]

Just picked up some Sust 250 and Mast Enth

Was thinking about doing 400mg of Sust week 1-10 and 400 mg Masteron week 2-10 and .25 armidex EOD

Also got Clomid and Nolva on hand (50/50/50/50 & 40/40/20/20)

This would be my third cycle my previous cycles were both 10 week test e cycles at 600 mg a week

I wanted to try Sust I know alot of people on it who have gotten results and mastern cause im prone to gyno to and I want a nice lean hard look.

Stats
25
175lb
9% body fat
5'7
training for 9 plus years

Any tips?

 

[3J]

they usually say to run mast for a longer period..

there is nothing wrong with the cycle.. im guessing youre running the mast 2-10 because of a limited supply?

 

[alphamega]

they usually say to run mast for a longer period..

there is nothing wrong with the cycle.. im guessing youre running the mast 2-10 because of a limited supply?

Someone told me masteron is a good finisher 6-8 weeks is a good time frame. But I can get more If you think it should be ran for 10 weeks

 

[3J]

Someone told me masteron is a good finisher 6-8 weeks is a good time frame. But I can get more If you think it should be ran for 10 weeks

well, its a 2 week difference.. if its viable for your financially why not, add 2 weeks.. if not, do it the way you have planned

and in all honesty.. there is no diff between sust and test c or e.. sust is just a blend of short to long esters and frowned upon these days.. youre better off sticking to one ester

 

[Southernfish]

I would run the Mast the full length of the cycle for sure. Also If you can afford to run it at 600mg per week I think you would see much bettee results at that dose. Ive ran Mast many times now and 600 seems to be the sweet spot.

Other than that though what you have set up looks good. Test is Test but I really like Sust actually. A lot of guys will say stick to a single ester but Sust gets the job done really well.

 

[alphamega]

I would run the Mast the full length of the cycle for sure. Also If you can afford to run it at 600mg per week I think you would see much bettee results at that dose. Ive ran Mast many times now and 600 seems to be the sweet spot.

Other than that though what you have set up looks good. Test is Test but I really like Sust actually. A lot of guys will say stick to a single ester but Sust gets the job done really well.

I was also thinking about running oral with my cycle to...why not right
I dont want to take dbols and anavar is jsut to expensive
what would you recomend...winny?..Tbol?...

 

[Southernfish]

I was also thinking about running oral with my cycle to...why not right
I dont want to take dbols and anavar is jsut to expensive
what would you recomend...winny?..Tbol?...

Why dont you want to run dbol?

 

[alphamega]

Why dont you want to run dbol?

To much bloat. I forgot to mention I have token dbol before and it made me look more fat...I feel like it wouldn't give me the hard cut look I'm wanting

 

[Southernfish]

To much bloat. I forgot to mention I have token dbol before and it made me look more fat...I feel like it wouldn't give me the hard cut look I'm wanting

Fair enough. Tbol might be a good choice for you then. Its similar to dbol, but less water retention!

 

[alphamega]

Fair enough. Tbol might be a good choice for you then. Its similar to dbol, but less water retention!

So 400mg of sust a week and 400mg a mast a week for 10 weeks. And from week 6-10 50mg of tbol ED and arimdex .25 EOD and pct 2 or 3 weeks after last poke? Ppl say sust should be poked EOD if I do it E3D is that ok to?

 

[bigben66]

Sustanon every 3.5 days is fine...

Although there is Prop in it, the amount is negligible, always judge your pinning frequency by the prominent esters.

I agree with Schredder though, if you can afford it, bump the Mast up to 600mg, you'll see vast difference at that dose.

 

[halfwit]

Just picked up some Sust 250 and Mast Enth

Was thinking about doing 400mg of Sust week 1-10 and 400 mg Masteron week 2-10 and .25 armidex EOD

Also got Clomid and Nolva on hand (50/50/50/50 & 40/40/20/20)

This would be my third cycle my previous cycles were both 10 week test e cycles at 600 mg a week

I wanted to try Sust I know alot of people on it who have gotten results and mastern cause im prone to gyno to and I want a nice lean hard look.

Stats
25
175lb
9% body fat
5'7
training for 9 plus years

Any tips?

To much bloat. I forgot to mention I have token dbol before and it made me look more fat...I feel like it wouldn't give me the hard cut look I'm wanting

So what AI are you on, and what dose? I see a pattern here, and have a sneaking suspicion that you were misinformed about what masteron does.

It's an AWESOME compound, but if you're taking it to reduce estradiol sides - you're going to be disappointed.

 

[Southernfish]

So what AI are you on, and what dose? I see a pattern here, and have a sneaking suspicion that you were misinformed about what masteron does.

It's an AWESOME compound, but if you're taking it to reduce estradiol sides - you're going to be disappointed.

Good call HW!!

 

[alphamega]

So what AI are you on, and what dose? I see a pattern here, and have a sneaking suspicion that you were misinformed about what masteron does.

It's an AWESOME compound, but if you're taking it to reduce estradiol sides - you're going to be disappointed.

I'm not on any AI....
And I know mast won't be helping with my sides I'm really just taking it because it's mild and gives nice cutting results and minmun sides

 

[alphamega]

they usually say to run mast for a longer period..

there is nothing wrong with the cycle.. im guessing youre running the mast 2-10 because of a limited supply?

What's the minimum amount of test you can take if your with a stack like mine. If I do decide to take up to 600 mg of Mast can I lower my sust to 300mg a week.

 

[alphamega]

Good call HW!!

What's the minimum amount of test you can take if your with a stack like mine. If I do decide to take up to 600 mg of Mast can I lower my sust to 300mg a week.

 

[halfwit]

I'm not on any AI....
And I know mast won't be helping with my sides I'm really just taking it because it's mild and gives nice cutting results and minmun sides

You're gyno prone and want a nice lean, hard look - but you're NOT taking an AI. Do you know what causes gyno? How about moonface/bloat?

Estradiol does.

AI's reduce this conversion of testosterone into estradiol. Sorry man, but you're just doing it wrong. Masteron isn't a "cutting" agent by the way. It just pulls subcutaneous water out of your tissues. I LOVE the stuff, but I'd honestly look into AI use first.

There are worse things than growing boobies when it comes to estradiol.

 

[alphamega]

You're gyno prone and want a nice lean, hard look - but you're NOT taking an AI. Do you know what causes gyno? How about moonface/bloat?

Estradiol does.

AI's reduce this conversion of testosterone into estradiol. Sorry man, but you're just doing it wrong. Masteron isn't a "cutting" agent by the way. It just pulls subcutaneous water out of your tissues. I LOVE the stuff, but I'd honestly look into AI use first.

There are worse things than growing boobies when it comes to estradiol.

Does arimdex count as a AI? Cause I've used that through out my cycle

 

[alphamega]

.25 EOD is what I used

 

[halfwit]

Does arimdex count as a AI? Cause I've used that through out my cycle

Yes, arimidex is an AI.

The next question is have you gotten blood tests done to verify that you're using the proper dosing? I promise you that estradiol is the biggest offender for the many, MANY stereotypes regarding AAS and the negative side effects. Water weight (bulking can bring its own due to carbs being in a higher number of course), acne, gyno, emotions, joint aches (too low), malaise, anxiety, prostate problems, clotting issues, blood pressure (related to water weight most of the time), libido, erectile dysfunction, appetite, and many other problems can be traced back to the pesky hormone.

Your symptoms from previous cycles just SCREAMS estradiol control issues to me, hence my line of questions.

To be fair, I'll answer the question you posed a few times. The amount of testosterone is somewhat irrelevant when using another anabolic compound. Some prefer high test, some prefer lower test (at a minimum, a replacement dose is needed) as it's easier maintenance with estradiol. I will say that a dose of less than 600mg/wk of masteron is less than ideal though. A great deal of what dosing you prefer is going to come from trial and error; you find a dose that you find great results from, and move from there. Hope that helps.