sust, tren, deca, dbol

[ethan_andrew]

Ok starting a cycle soon of Sustanon 200, nandrolone 200, trenbolone enanthate 300 per week, and dbol 20mg a day for 12 weeks except for dbol which starts on beginning of 5th week so will only be for 8 weeks, then at the end will do 2 weeks of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for pct and then 2 weeks of nothing for off time and then back on again. Next cycle I think I will swith out the sustanon for test enanthate 200 and leave everything else the same. Does this sound like a good stack?

 

[pikiki]

First of all, is this your first cycle?
Have you done 19nor before?
why Tren/deca at the same time?
What are your stats?
HCG Only for PCT then 2 weeks off then start another cycle again?

 

[ethan_andrew]

Ok about the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) only for post cycle therapy (pct). I don't know why but when I take estrogen blocker like anastrozole and especially tamoxifin I have severe joint pain. I mean the first time I experienced it I woke up startled in the middle of the night from the pain and was trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with my hand. it felt like someone had hit it with a hammer or had broken my fingers. also I have mood swings on estrogen blockers. I feel like in my case the side effects out weigh the benefits. I'm 5'11" 185lbs. This isn't my first cycle and up until recently I've had problems keeping steady gear so now that seems to be changing I should be able to get better results. I don't even know what 19nor is so I guess I'm gonna say no to that. What is 19nor? Is that something in the sustanon? Is tren and deca not a good mix? I've just heard that deca helps with joint discomfort and I have sensitive joints and I've heard that it boosts immune system and is just good in a stack but i don't know for sure thats why I asked? Trenbolone is supposed to be one of the strongest injectables right so I picked that one because I want results. And of course we alll know dbol gives good results so that's why that's in there. the sustanon is only in there because that's what my buddy had so next time I think I will replace that with test. And in my view i'll have a total of four weeks off because to me pct is off but anyway 2 weeks nothing but Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) then 2 weeks nothing and then back on. Hope this info helps. Is this a good stack, bad stack?

 

[bigherm2121]

Do not run two 19 nors. Deca and Tren. Bad idea. What about progesteron control? Slow down brother. I know you had that one thread going for a while. You just need to slow down before you hurt yourself. how many weeks you running each compound? We need this info too.

 

[bigherm2121]

Ok starting a cycle soon of Sustanon 200, nandrolone 200, trenbolone enanthate 300 per week, and dbol 20mg a day for 12 weeks except for dbol which starts on beginning of 5th week so will only be for 8 weeks, then at the end will do 2 weeks of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for pct and then 2 weeks of nothing for off time and then back on again. Next cycle I think I will swith out the sustanon for test enanthate 200 and leave everything else the same. Does this sound like a good stack?

You got a lot to learn. Dbol is usually ran in the beginning of the cycle for a hicks start with long esters, deca under 300 is worthless, don't run Tren and decca together, you have no progesterone control here, always run test longer then 19 nors.. Ate you on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT)? If not why u jumping back on. Your gonna damage
Your hpta. Whats the rush? I thought we went over this already.

 

[bigherm2121]

The reason we say time on equals time off need time for your body to get used to the added weight and letting your hpta fully recover and all your hormones. Your treading thin water buddy. I hope you have kids already cuz you forsure are gonna be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) sometime and the near future. Will have to take a needle everyweek for the rest of your life. Dude I'm my honest opinion your being super dumb.

 

[ethan_andrew]

I thought that bulk of the gear needed to be run at the end or else you would be left feeling drained because in the beginning you would be on more gear than in the end? If I'm supposed to run it in the beginning that's what I'll do? I definitely won't run deca and tren together then. What is 19nor and what do I need to know or do about it for cycle? I've been off for about 2 and half weeks and was planning on starting up this next cycle after one and half week more. No I'm not on testosterone replacement therapy. I probably should be. I have really low test. But at the same time I can't be sure that is natural or something I've done to myself. I always do twelve week cycles so was planning on doing everything for twelve weeks and dbol for 8. I have a hard time staying off cycle for too long because pretty quick I start to see weight loss and loss of appetite, and I usually lose motivation to work out and quit going to the gym so it's tough. I appreciate all the advice and info from you guys. I think one of my biggest problems has been underdosed gear. If I had a good cycle everytime I think it would be easier to stay off for longer each time. I think I have some good gear now though so we will see. what do i do for progesterone control? never heard about that before?

 

[pikiki]

hey son me and Herm just trying to help you out and we will trust me. Before you do one more cycle you need to do few things.One is reaserch about 19nor this is the abreviation for example this - (Deca-Durabolin; 19-Nortestoterone decanoate) is in reference of the chemical structure of a compound same as tren is a 19 nor as well. Read about Prolactin issues one thing with 19-nor is prolactin and Caber is the most ideal method to use to control this sides there are others way to do it so read bout it. Need to get your head on what are the compounds you want to run and what they do. Time off is sooooo much important like Herm said, the better the recovery the healthier you`ll be. Ak question if you need to bro but make sure you do some good reads too. As far as joint pain can be ffew things like you did too much Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and thats one of the signs of it, you drop your estro levels too much or your jooints are dry who knows better than you. And last thing DIET is what makes gains stay not the gear by it self, if you don`t eat you will gain but once your out of gear gains going like water.