NickalausA87
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What is the best way to cycle this stack for best results! First time with the masteron and bit of a rookie with tren
Sustanon 250 tren ace and masteron stack
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Megatron28
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Tell us about your cycle history and stats including age please.
It's all about timing your compounds/esters...is the mast prop?
Since you have a lot of short esters, EOD/E3D would be sufficient...
You are also going to have to become familiarized with injection sites and what's available, proper protocols, what muscle groups to avoid and what groups are more favored...
I would suggest getting a smaller gauge needle 25g 1.0 could be utilized on a few sites such as your deltoids and your quad,or VG, 1.5 25g for glutes.. I suggest this due to the fact that you will have a lot of injection and this will assist with irritation and scar tissue... depending on the quality of your compounds and the carrier oils that have been utilized along with the solvent ratio, they should be smooth in a 25.. If not you can heat up the needle with a blowdryer... this will change the viscosity considerably, temporarily making it easier for injection...
I only suggest that protocol because of your pinning and the schedule will be more frequent...
1mL of each compound should be sufficient.. Depending on your goal..
Limit oil concentration in your sites...delt 1.5mL max ( these compounds will have a bite) , glute 2-3 mL, quad 1-2 mL max...VG 1-2mL
Since you have a lot of short esters, EOD/E3D would be sufficient...
You are also going to have to become familiarized with injection sites and what's available, proper protocols, what muscle groups to avoid and what groups are more favored...
I would suggest getting a smaller gauge needle 25g 1.0 could be utilized on a few sites such as your deltoids and your quad,or VG, 1.5 25g for glutes.. I suggest this due to the fact that you will have a lot of injection and this will assist with irritation and scar tissue... depending on the quality of your compounds and the carrier oils that have been utilized along with the solvent ratio, they should be smooth in a 25.. If not you can heat up the needle with a blowdryer... this will change the viscosity considerably, temporarily making it easier for injection...
I only suggest that protocol because of your pinning and the schedule will be more frequent...
1mL of each compound should be sufficient.. Depending on your goal..
Limit oil concentration in your sites...delt 1.5mL max ( these compounds will have a bite) , glute 2-3 mL, quad 1-2 mL max...VG 1-2mL
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Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
How funny, i can get 3ml into pecs delts lats quads and traps. More into glutes. Haven't tried tris and bis but i guess my cruise dosage would work there
Then why don't you suggest this protocol to him? 3mls,straight to his pecs with short esters,like a boss..lol..anyhow, we don't know his body composition and his size, especially considering the compounds that he has at hand and the site irritation those estern posses.. if you wish to put 3ml in your pecs that's fine, that's something I would never do... compartment syndrome cellulitis is not a joke it could happen to anyone at any given time, your lymphatic system can be rather sassy.. the last thing I think this guy wants is to be knotted up!
luckypaul
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Lots of pins, As Mega has said, op isn't giving us much info.
Beck-Miester
New member
I have to wonder why you've decided on a mixed ester Test like Sustanon, but then decided to stack it with short esters like Tren A and Mast (I'm going to assume) Prop? There are a lot of long esters in Sustanon, and USUALLY, a stack using Tren A and Mast Prop, use Test Prop as well, since you can more finely tune your dosages. Have you used Tren before? I have this very weird feeling that this may be your first Tren cycle....if so, the usual recommendation is to have at LEAST 3 complete cycles under your belt before messing with "lady Tren" I WILL admit tho...Tren is AWESOME!
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
Then why don't you suggest this protocol to him? 3mls,straight to his pecs with short esters,like a boss..lol..anyhow, we don't know his body composition and his size, especially considering the compounds that he has at hand and the site irritation those estern posses.. if you wish to put 3ml in your pecs that's fine, that's something I would never do... compartment syndrome cellulitis is not a joke it could happen to anyone at any given time, your lymphatic system can be rather sassy.. the last thing I think this guy wants is to be knotted up!
doesn't seem to be a problem with correct rotation.
if you're pinning 4x a week then
wk 1
L glut
R glute
L Pec
R pec
wk 2
L quad
R quad
L delt
R delt
wk 3
L VG
R VR
L Trap
R trap
wk 4
L lat
R lat
start over
means you have plenty of time not to burn our muscle groups
I'm not suggesting he do it, but limiting 1.5mL to delts and 2mL to quads....seems...soft.
Megatron28
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Then why don't you suggest this protocol to him? 3mls,straight to his pecs with short esters,like a boss..lol..anyhow, we don't know his body composition and his size, especially considering the compounds that he has at hand and the site irritation those estern posses.. if you wish to put 3ml in your pecs that's fine, that's something I would never do... compartment syndrome cellulitis is not a joke it could happen to anyone at any given time, your lymphatic system can be rather sassy.. the last thing I think this guy wants is to be knotted up!
I would not be concerned about Compartment Syndrome from injection cellulitis. That is extremely rare. Extremely! Compartment Syndrome is most often associated with Crush Injuries.
Please don't mistake me here as being rigid or arrogant, but your statement is not entirely correct..Its seems you're misinformed in regards to the factors associated with this syndrome; and So was I once upon a time,however I learned the hard way TWICE! I'll explain that at the end..
Compartment syndrome is the most common form of cellulitis in Bodybuilding due to a handful of reasons..There's similarities with CS following trauma vs intramuscular injection induced CS.. Do you know why Mega? CS is a condition resulting in the increased pressure (localized swelling) within a confined body space,this occurs when the interstitial tissue pressure rises within an enclosed fascial envelope(connective tissue/muscle stocking) via injury or INJECTION..
This instance is more common in Bodybuilding because to the presence of fluid/water retention due to AAS, muscle hypertrophy/satellite cell activation and function,maintenance and repair of tissue etc...
Now with this said: This can/may occur with the result of a weight training incident (mentioned above for a greater chance due to muscle repair/fluid), and/or AAS injection, whether it's incidental of consequential
Since we are discussing injections,lets start with that! (trauma/injuries are merely just another possibility of developing or provoking this syndrome)
:Side note: The possibility of developing/encountering compartment syndromes or chronic compartment syndrome has been described as more pronounced in athletes who undergo rigorous training regimes,especially muscular athlete as its far greater,especially who may be taking anabolic steroids,for those present after trauma or injection mishaps due to the increase of muscle volume,and water retention which is restricted by the fascial tissue, in which now effect the transfer of fluids by affecting fluid movement out of vasculature and cells resulting in increased compartmental pressure..Now with the high volume with osmolarity that these compounds possess could be a leading factor with provoking an onset of CS with a slow metabolizing process that may take place due to high volume injections,triggering/inducing further localized tissue inflammation.
Developing Cellulitis through AAS injections is one of the leading injection site issues and complications associated to this lifestyle,whether it's IM or dermis and subcutaneous fat tissue related..Because of the conduit mapping with blood and lymphatic vessels it's very likely anyone can experience a mild, acute or even severe immune response with IM injections with AAS, especially with repetitive and large volume injections where Lymphatic vessels may occasionally be involved by agitation and accelerating a local response within the muscle compartment (i.e the medical terminology of Compartment syndrome cellulitis)..
Why the discussion:
I have personally experienced compartment syndrome cellulitis on 2 occasions, each time resulting is hospitalization and a decompression surgery (lancing of the region)..In my most recent instance I unfortunately had 30-40% of my right lateral deltoid removed (By the grace of god I still have full ROM).. In both of these cases I was utilizing safe/practice and protocol with my injections so negligence on my end with cross contamination has been ruled out..The first development was induced with Human Grade/Pharma test, resulting in a 6 week hospital stint (because of IV antibiotics amputation was spared). I was fortunately enough to walk out of the hospital,however recovery was up to a year,8 months till the wound closed on it's on.
2nd, was due to multiple compounds being injected,with high volume hormone + the osmolarity with agents in the compounds (hormone,bb/ba, and carrier "per mole" 1mL)..Now again "ON A EXTREMELY RARE INSTANCE" (I should have played the lotto), after an attempt to lance the region they they discovered extensive muscle necrosis within the lateral compartment requiring excision,in which was then the tissue was removed.
Im not attempting to initiate any actions here, or discrete anyone's PERSONAL experience, my intentions with the "suggestions" are merely on personal experience and proven medical procedures and instances that or more prevalent than mentioned above..
In all my years (almost 25 under the belt) I have always be cautions and Ive learned that this is truly not a one size fits all lifestyle..What works for some may not be appropriate for the next few,so many factors need to be considered,this stuff is not a joke..
To the OP, we can layout a blue print of what "Text Book" suggests regarding vol. per mL per site, and roll the dice with this being the standard for all, or you can utilize safe practice by doing the best you can to your ability to limit any unnecessary instances that can quite possible be avoid in all..(my suggestions regarding multi injections with multi compounds)
Conclusion: There's fucking consequences to the game, if you wish to treat your body like a thoroughbred horse pinning 3mL's in each site (including small regions), be prepared for any ramifications as a result to your actions whether it's incidental or consequential..
Megatron28
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I am not saying it isn't possible. I am saying it is rare. Compartment Syndrome should not be one's first thought. Here is a medical info for consideration.
Non-Necrotizing Streptococcal Cellulitis as a Cause of Acute, Atraumatic Compartment Syndrome of the Foot: A Case Report. - PubMed - NCBI
Non-Necrotizing Streptococcal Cellulitis as a Cause of Acute, Atraumatic Compartment Syndrome of the Foot: A Case Report.
Toney J1, Donovan S2, Adelman V2, Adelman R3.
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Abstract
Acute compartment syndrome is widely accepted as a surgical emergency. Most cases of acute compartment syndrome occur after high-energy trauma, especially crush injuries. We present a unique case of acute, atraumatic compartment syndrome of the foot associated with infectious cellulitis. A 53-year-old male, with a medical history significant for human immunodeficiency virus, presented to the emergency department secondary to an insidious onset of intense foot pain, swelling, and an inability to bear weight on the affected extremity. He had no history of recent trauma. He was admitted to the hospital because of a suspected infection and subsequently was given intravenous antibiotics. During the admission, he developed a severe infection, and blood cultures demonstrated growth of group A streptococcus. No abscess or hematoma was identified on magnetic resonance imaging or during exploratory surgery. The findings from intraoperative cultures were negative. Despite proper medical care for his infection, the lower extremity pain worsened; therefore, compartmental pressures were obtained at the bedside. Multiple compartment pressures were measured and were >40 mm Hg. Compartment syndrome was diagnosed, and the patient was taken to the operating room for emergent fasciotomies. Surgical release of the medial, lateral, interosseous, and adductor compartments revealed copious amounts of serosanguinous drainage. Again, no definitive hematoma or purulence was identified. The patient's symptoms resolved after the fasciotomies, and he healed uneventfully. Our case highlights the need to consider acute compartment syndrome in the differential diagnosis for pain out of proportion to the clinical situation, even when a traditional etiology is absent.
Non-Necrotizing Streptococcal Cellulitis as a Cause of Acute, Atraumatic Compartment Syndrome of the Foot: A Case Report. - PubMed - NCBI
Non-Necrotizing Streptococcal Cellulitis as a Cause of Acute, Atraumatic Compartment Syndrome of the Foot: A Case Report.
Toney J1, Donovan S2, Adelman V2, Adelman R3.
Author information
Abstract
Acute compartment syndrome is widely accepted as a surgical emergency. Most cases of acute compartment syndrome occur after high-energy trauma, especially crush injuries. We present a unique case of acute, atraumatic compartment syndrome of the foot associated with infectious cellulitis. A 53-year-old male, with a medical history significant for human immunodeficiency virus, presented to the emergency department secondary to an insidious onset of intense foot pain, swelling, and an inability to bear weight on the affected extremity. He had no history of recent trauma. He was admitted to the hospital because of a suspected infection and subsequently was given intravenous antibiotics. During the admission, he developed a severe infection, and blood cultures demonstrated growth of group A streptococcus. No abscess or hematoma was identified on magnetic resonance imaging or during exploratory surgery. The findings from intraoperative cultures were negative. Despite proper medical care for his infection, the lower extremity pain worsened; therefore, compartmental pressures were obtained at the bedside. Multiple compartment pressures were measured and were >40 mm Hg. Compartment syndrome was diagnosed, and the patient was taken to the operating room for emergent fasciotomies. Surgical release of the medial, lateral, interosseous, and adductor compartments revealed copious amounts of serosanguinous drainage. Again, no definitive hematoma or purulence was identified. The patient's symptoms resolved after the fasciotomies, and he healed uneventfully. Our case highlights the need to consider acute compartment syndrome in the differential diagnosis for pain out of proportion to the clinical situation, even when a traditional etiology is absent.
This is baseless, and irrelevant to the topic. Yes this can happen with an injury, but why are you utilizing this to support anything beats me? I mentioned cellulitis through the means of injections, and you post a foot injury by force? lol come on mega.
Its more common vs RARE in this lifestyle. Ive had it TWICE, and Ive seen it happen to others..The ER doctor mention to me that he has seen it in many cases with young men using AAS, and on my 2nd stint at a different hosp the operating Dr also questions my usage and after we discussed some things (he was trying to piece things together) he also mentioned his large base of patients with my similar instance through means of AAS usaged.. How many times have we read a post about injection swelling and someone seeking advise,and later they end up being prescribed Bactrim (I was prescribed this as well for my situation,even though it appeared to be dermal/subq,when it fact the Dr was aware it was IM)..If its pink/red on the outside, you can bet its tan/brown and almost black on the inside..
when people get a bad injection not every case is small immune response/subq tissue or hitting nerves ext,and when they have localized swelling, what do you think is happening? shit can spiral out of control, fast!
If anyone believe the facts I stated prior not true, then Im sure a demitasses would fit their head like a sombrero!
I'll see you on your "Old man with a smashed foot" and raise you a STEROID INJECTION cellulitis article..
Necrotizing myositis of the deltoid following intramuscular injection of anabolic steroid
A 25-year-old male bodybuilder was admitted in septic shock. He had marked limitation of left shoulder movement with non- fluctuant swelling extending from the acromio-clavicular joint to the postero-lateral and anterior deltoid. Lesions consistent with herpes labialis were also noted. A computed tomography scan demonstrated collections of both gas and fluid within the deltoid muscle and numerous pockets of gas within the soft tissues conforming to the fascial planes (Figure 1). On further questioning he admitted to injecting himself with anabolic steroids into the left deltoid region six days prior to admission. He underwent emergency drainage with debridement of large areas of necrotic muscle and a fasciotomy of the upper arm. Gemella morbillorum and Veillonella were isolated from culture of pus. Dialister pneumosintes was grown from blood cultures.
The strains were identified by 16 s rDNA sequencing. He was treated with benzyl penicillin and clindamycin. Histology showed necrotic skeletal muscle tissue with mixed inflammatory infiltrate. Despite extensive muscle debridement he retained excellent shoulder function. The use of anabolic steroids for performance enhancement amongst young adults is well known. According to a Home Office estimate, there are more than 40 000 users of anabolic steroids in the UK.. As many as 36% of anabolic steroid users are not athletes. The pathogens recovered in the setting of anabolic steroid injection-related abscess include Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus, and Pseudomonas. Both solitary and multiple abscesses have been reported. A solitary abscess may result from a ***8216;spot shot***8217;, where injection is used to build a specific muscle group, such as the deltoid or the pectoral muscle.
The common mode of acquisition of infection is thought to be related to needle contamination with skin flora and due to contaminated drug.1 G. morbillorum is part of the normal flora of the respiratory tract and was once classified as a member of the viridans Streptococcus family. Veillonella and Dialister are rare anaerobic pathogens. They are part of the normal oral and gut flora. Systemic infection has been documented following injection use,5 after endoscopic procedures,6 and in immunocompromised patients.7 Herpes viruses are known to activate periodontal bacteria by impairing local defense mechanisms.8 High doses of anabolic steroids with an intact steroid nucleus are immunosuppressive, while steroids with an altered nucleus are known to stimulate the T lymphocytes.9 We are unsure as to the chemical nature of the steroid in this case as it was acquired illicitly. Although the exact mode of infection is uncertain, the triad of anabolic steroid-mediated immunosuppression, reactivation of herpes simplex, and anaerobic bacteremia with seeding of a traumatized area in the deltoid could explain the pathogenesis in this patient.
http://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(10)02393-3/fulltext
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Megatron28
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This is baseless, and irrelevant to the topic. Yes this can happen with an injury, but why are you utilizing this to support anything beats me? I mentioned cellulitis through the means of injections, and you post a foot injury by force? lol come on mega.
Its more common vs RARE in this lifestyle. Ive had it TWICE, and Ive seen it happen to others..The ER doctor mention to me that he has seen it in many cases with young men using AAS, and on my 2nd stint at a different hosp the operating Dr also questions my usage and after we discussed some things (he was trying to piece things together) he also mentioned his large base of patients with my similar instance through means of AAS usaged.. How many times have we read a post about injection swelling and someone seeking advise,and later they end up being prescribed Bactrim (I was prescribed this as well for my situation,even though it appeared to be dermal/subq,when it fact the Dr was aware it was IM)..If its pink/red on the outside, you can bet its tan/brown and almost black on the inside..
when people get a bad injection not every case is small immune response/subq tissue or hitting nerves ext,and when they have localized swelling, what do you think is happening? shit can spiral out of control, fast!
If anyone believe the facts I stated prior not true, then Im sure a demitasses would fit their head like a sombrero!
I'll see you on your "Old man with a smashed foot" and raise you a STEROID INJECTION cellulitis article..
Necrotizing myositis of the deltoid following intramuscular injection of anabolic steroid
A 25-year-old male bodybuilder was admitted in septic shock. He had marked limitation of left shoulder movement with non- fluctuant swelling extending from the acromio-clavicular joint to the postero-lateral and anterior deltoid. Lesions consistent with herpes labialis were also noted. A computed tomography scan demonstrated collections of both gas and fluid within the deltoid muscle and numerous pockets of gas within the soft tissues conforming to the fascial planes (Figure 1). On further questioning he admitted to injecting himself with anabolic steroids into the left deltoid region six days prior to admission. He underwent emergency drainage with debridement of large areas of necrotic muscle and a fasciotomy of the upper arm. Gemella morbillorum and Veillonella were isolated from culture of pus. Dialister pneumosintes was grown from blood cultures.
The strains were identified by 16 s rDNA sequencing. He was treated with benzyl penicillin and clindamycin. Histology showed necrotic skeletal muscle tissue with mixed inflammatory infiltrate. Despite extensive muscle debridement he retained excellent shoulder function. The use of anabolic steroids for performance enhancement amongst young adults is well known. According to a Home Office estimate, there are more than 40 000 users of anabolic steroids in the UK.. As many as 36% of anabolic steroid users are not athletes. The pathogens recovered in the setting of anabolic steroid injection-related abscess include Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus, and Pseudomonas. Both solitary and multiple abscesses have been reported. A solitary abscess may result from a ***8216;spot shot***8217;, where injection is used to build a specific muscle group, such as the deltoid or the pectoral muscle.
The common mode of acquisition of infection is thought to be related to needle contamination with skin flora and due to contaminated drug.1 G. morbillorum is part of the normal flora of the respiratory tract and was once classified as a member of the viridans Streptococcus family. Veillonella and Dialister are rare anaerobic pathogens. They are part of the normal oral and gut flora. Systemic infection has been documented following injection use,5 after endoscopic procedures,6 and in immunocompromised patients.7 Herpes viruses are known to activate periodontal bacteria by impairing local defense mechanisms.8 High doses of anabolic steroids with an intact steroid nucleus are immunosuppressive, while steroids with an altered nucleus are known to stimulate the T lymphocytes.9 We are unsure as to the chemical nature of the steroid in this case as it was acquired illicitly. Although the exact mode of infection is uncertain, the triad of anabolic steroid-mediated immunosuppression, reactivation of herpes simplex, and anaerobic bacteremia with seeding of a traumatized area in the deltoid could explain the pathogenesis in this patient.
http://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(10)02393-3/fulltext
As usual, you are missing the point.
See what I highlighted for you in red and bold. That is the point -- the takeaway message. I tried to make it very simple for you. The rest is acknowledging that cellulitis can be a cause of Compartment Syndrome as you pointed out. But simply because it happened to you twice or to a guy with a foot infection does not make it common or something that most people should worry about. Especially those in good health and injecting steroids. It is NOT common in weight lifting or AAS users unless they get crushed. You keep taking information and twisting it in a way that is dangerous if people listen to you. The forum would be better served if you stuck to repping in my personal opinion.
I get the sense that English may not be your native language...
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Megatron28
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Necrotizing myositis of the deltoid following intramuscular injection of anabolic steroid
A 25-year-old male bodybuilder was admitted in septic shock. He had marked limitation of left shoulder movement with non- fluctuant swelling extending from the acromio-clavicular joint to the postero-lateral and anterior deltoid. Lesions consistent with herpes labialis were also noted. A computed tomography scan demonstrated collections of both gas and fluid within the deltoid muscle and numerous pockets of gas within the soft tissues conforming to the fascial planes (Figure 1). On further questioning he admitted to injecting himself with anabolic steroids into the left deltoid region six days prior to admission. He underwent emergency drainage with debridement of large areas of necrotic muscle and a fasciotomy of the upper arm. Gemella morbillorum and Veillonella were isolated from culture of pus. Dialister pneumosintes was grown from blood cultures.
The strains were identified by 16 s rDNA sequencing. He was treated with benzyl penicillin and clindamycin. Histology showed necrotic skeletal muscle tissue with mixed inflammatory infiltrate. Despite extensive muscle debridement he retained excellent shoulder function. The use of anabolic steroids for performance enhancement amongst young adults is well known. According to a Home Office estimate, there are more than 40 000 users of anabolic steroids in the UK.. As many as 36% of anabolic steroid users are not athletes. The pathogens recovered in the setting of anabolic steroid injection-related abscess include Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus, and Pseudomonas. Both solitary and multiple abscesses have been reported. A solitary abscess may result from a ***8216;spot shot***8217;, where injection is used to build a specific muscle group, such as the deltoid or the pectoral muscle.
The common mode of acquisition of infection is thought to be related to needle contamination with skin flora and due to contaminated drug.1 G. morbillorum is part of the normal flora of the respiratory tract and was once classified as a member of the viridans Streptococcus family. Veillonella and Dialister are rare anaerobic pathogens. They are part of the normal oral and gut flora. Systemic infection has been documented following injection use,5 after endoscopic procedures,6 and in immunocompromised patients.7 Herpes viruses are known to activate periodontal bacteria by impairing local defense mechanisms.8 High doses of anabolic steroids with an intact steroid nucleus are immunosuppressive, while steroids with an altered nucleus are known to stimulate the T lymphocytes.9 We are unsure as to the chemical nature of the steroid in this case as it was acquired illicitly. Although the exact mode of infection is uncertain, the triad of anabolic steroid-mediated immunosuppression, reactivation of herpes simplex, and anaerobic bacteremia with seeding of a traumatized area in the deltoid could explain the pathogenesis in this patient.
http://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(10)02393-3/fulltext
This is an example of an infection or Sterile Abscess. NOT Compartment Syndrome. I don't think you understand what Compartment Syndrome is.
PrinceDianabol
Well-known member
I have to say I wholeheartedly agree. I had considerable damage done to my own HPTA due to misinformation... I hate seeing it happen to others.
Necrotizing myositis ----- Is exactly how I got cellulitis COMPARTMENT SYNDROME!
It does not have to be a crushing blow to make tissue swell, in fections also causes tissue to swell..You silly goose..
Obviously the crow is white on your end.. I see a black crow all day!
I dont think YOU have a clue, let alone experienced it,But I did, twice like I said, with 2 major operations and the removal of tissue..and your stand fast on a smashed foot.. You win! It was fun chatting.. enjoy your holiday fine sir..
BTW
There's tons and tons or reads you can find in regards to this, I have 2 saved somewhere, deep..I can pull them up later..Have at it and read about..
What shocks me here Mega, is sometimes in your post your spot on with things, this one brutha, Im disappointed to say the least!
Megatron28
Moderator
Necrotizing myositis ----- Is exactly how I got cellulitis COMPARTMENT SYNDROME!
It does not have to be a crushing blow to make tissue swell, in fections also causes tissue to swell..You silly goose..
Obviously the crow is white on your end.. I see a black crow all day!
I dont think YOU have a clue, let alone experienced it,But I did, twice like I said, with 2 major operations and the removal of tissue..and your stand fast on a smashed foot.. You win! It was fun chatting.. enjoy your holiday fine sir..
BTW
There's tons and tons or reads you can find in regards to this, I have 2 saved somewhere, deep..I can pull them up later..Have at it and read about..
What shocks me here Mega, is sometimes in your post your spot on with things, this one brutha, Im disappointed to say the least!
I have agreed already that it can happen. But I do not agree with you that it is a common cause of Compartment Syndrome. I don't think you understand what I have been writing.
Megatron28
Moderator
How many time do you need me to tell you that I agree with that statement? However, we disagree on the likelihood of it happening. Please pay attention to all the words I write. Look them up in the dictionary if you don't understand them.
Mega, brotha.I agree 1000% that a common cause is trauma x 1000 I cant dispute that.
When I made my post, it was in regards to volume and compounds also leading to the instance I experienced with site injections.. The OP stated that he has little experience with one compound,and none with an other..That is where I expressed my concern with injections/AAS with short esters and his cycle.. I was not discrediting what you stated, I was highlighting what I was stressing from the very start! to be careful, an use different sites as often as he can
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